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<blockquote data-quote="CPXB" data-source="post: 1478707" data-attributes="member: 17233"><p>This post is intensely ignorant. I've really tried not to just flame, but this is really just the stupidest thing I've ever seen.</p><p></p><p>"Villages are durable." Fire, you huge, intense idiot -- FIRE. While you might not know what it is, giants do, and more to the point my GM does. My GM knows when you want to destroy a town, you burn it. Or maybe the hill giants would have just gone around eating towns people. Real heroic. Letting your friends and family be munched because you wanted to lure the monster next to a cliff or something. Ugh.</p><p></p><p>And if you'd read 3.5, you'd know that shuriken do 1d2 damage and have a range increment of 10 ft. TEN FEET. To hit the giant, I have to be close enough to be in melee combat with it, you dimwitted lardhead. I mean, if you're going to say to the other guy that he doesn't know the rules, at least be clear on them yourself.</p><p></p><p>Your knowledge of actual tactics is wholly nonexistent. The only way you can feel good about your tactics is likely because you're DM is either an idiot or softballs you all the time.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, knowing the stats to every monster in the book is not tactics. It's just cheating. You see, I don't even know a hill giant's stats 'cause I didn't look it up because my character has no way of knowing what a hill giant's stats are. Maybe you cheat by using out of game knowledge IC, but I respect my GM and the game to an extent that I *don't* go and check up on every monster we've fought or might fight again.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: About the resource consumption thing, birdbrain, there were three character fighting two CR 7 creatures. The very game you purport to know everything about basically says that we should expect almost all our resources to fight them. </p><p></p><p>And we used no potions. One other character was lightly injured. We *destroyed* the opposition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CPXB, post: 1478707, member: 17233"] This post is intensely ignorant. I've really tried not to just flame, but this is really just the stupidest thing I've ever seen. "Villages are durable." Fire, you huge, intense idiot -- FIRE. While you might not know what it is, giants do, and more to the point my GM does. My GM knows when you want to destroy a town, you burn it. Or maybe the hill giants would have just gone around eating towns people. Real heroic. Letting your friends and family be munched because you wanted to lure the monster next to a cliff or something. Ugh. And if you'd read 3.5, you'd know that shuriken do 1d2 damage and have a range increment of 10 ft. TEN FEET. To hit the giant, I have to be close enough to be in melee combat with it, you dimwitted lardhead. I mean, if you're going to say to the other guy that he doesn't know the rules, at least be clear on them yourself. Your knowledge of actual tactics is wholly nonexistent. The only way you can feel good about your tactics is likely because you're DM is either an idiot or softballs you all the time. Furthermore, knowing the stats to every monster in the book is not tactics. It's just cheating. You see, I don't even know a hill giant's stats 'cause I didn't look it up because my character has no way of knowing what a hill giant's stats are. Maybe you cheat by using out of game knowledge IC, but I respect my GM and the game to an extent that I *don't* go and check up on every monster we've fought or might fight again. EDIT: About the resource consumption thing, birdbrain, there were three character fighting two CR 7 creatures. The very game you purport to know everything about basically says that we should expect almost all our resources to fight them. And we used no potions. One other character was lightly injured. We *destroyed* the opposition. [/QUOTE]
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