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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 1479142" data-attributes="member: 537">I am always willing to give little children the benefit of my penetrating wisdom, as unto a shaft of gold in the dark night.&nbsp;&nbsp;And I shall start now.&nbsp;1. The ioun [sic] stone only absorbs 50 spell levels, after which it's useless. Unless you are talking about a one-shot, these things run out.&nbsp;2. It costs 40,000 gp a pop. Even 20th level characters will blink at splurging that sort of money on a regular basis.&nbsp;3. There's nothing to stop the barb, or any other character, getting one of these ioun stones either. It is entirely irrelevant for the purpose of comparing character classes.&nbsp;You DO understand what we're trying to do here, don't you?&nbsp;&nbsp;How very nice of you. I'll bet you even know all the words to &quot;Kumbaya&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp;What your rogue does is a matter of profound indifference to me, and the other six billion people on the planet.&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, yes, your ONE-INCH TITANIUM PENIS is smaller than mine. Okay, I believe you.&nbsp;&nbsp;For people who play RIFTS, certainly.&nbsp;&nbsp;YOU CAN TELL THAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE MAJERE POSTED IN ALL CAPS. FEAR HIM! FEEEEAAARRR HIMMM!!!!&nbsp;This kinda schtick would work better if you actually showed any sign of cognitive ability past 7th grade, you know.&nbsp;&nbsp;No. This one particular class is based on precedents that strongly suggest it should be able to hold its own in combat. The class fails to do this, therefore it's a badly designed class. This argument does not apply to any arbitrary class, but only this one.&nbsp;Perhaps if I post in small words, it will be easier to understand.&nbsp;Monk in chop-socky movies kick butt.Monk in D&amp;D no kick butt.Monk do right stuff bad.Monk do wrong stuff good.&nbsp;Unfortunately there's two words with more than one syllable in there, but hopefully you should still be able get the gist of it.&nbsp;&nbsp;You have demonstrated no such thing, kid. Try again.&nbsp;&nbsp;IOW: you demonstrated no such thing, as I said.&nbsp;&nbsp;IOW: monks are problematic in combat, as I said.&nbsp;&nbsp;IOW: your build as posted was pointless, as I said.&nbsp;&nbsp;Is this more of that funky new math I've heard about?&nbsp;&nbsp;Ah. This must be some new meaning of the word &quot;same&quot; I wasn't previously aware of.&nbsp;&nbsp;Well, respectable to someone who plays a rogue who's useless in combat, anyway. Meanwhile in the real world, it's 12 midnight. DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE?&nbsp;&nbsp;That is 1) a fraction of the damage 2) of a fighter who isn't optimised for damage output 3) in a subset of all combat situations.&nbsp;You're doing well so far.&nbsp;&nbsp;And the fighter could just as easily be enlarged as well. This is the third time you have failed to comprehend this, O dimmest of wits. But never mind, the cluebat builds character.&nbsp;&nbsp;I will say, for the third time, in hopes of getting through to your tiny brain: nobody cares. The monk will live through crap that can kill lots of other people. Nobody cares. The character is not a major threat, relatively speaking, and since that is the prime driver of satisfaction for most people, the class has problems.&nbsp;YOU may care that your monk has stratospheric AC and saves, but your preferences are completely irrelevant to anyone except yourself. Except maybe to demonstrate to all and sundry your inability to follow the argument presented, but that's no bad thing.&nbsp;&nbsp;You know, there's no shame in just admitting you don't have a clue what's going on. Really.&nbsp;&nbsp;Clearly I will have to post in small words again.&nbsp;Monk live through crap.Only so much crap in the world.Monk no dish out crap.Dish out crap good.Monk no dish out crap, so monk no good.&nbsp;Comprende, RIFTS boy?&nbsp;&nbsp;Ah, another glimmer of understanding! It makes it all worthwhile. No, really.&nbsp;&nbsp;Nonsense.&nbsp;&nbsp;Oh dear, RIFTS boy is babbling again.&nbsp;&nbsp;Please, not the &quot;it's all chess to me&quot; argument. Do not make me drag out the dinosaurs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hong, post: 1479142, member: 537"] I am always willing to give little children the benefit of my penetrating wisdom, as unto a shaft of gold in the dark night. And I shall start now. 1. The ioun [sic] stone only absorbs 50 spell levels, after which it's useless. Unless you are talking about a one-shot, these things run out. 2. It costs 40,000 gp a pop. Even 20th level characters will blink at splurging that sort of money on a regular basis. 3. There's nothing to stop the barb, or any other character, getting one of these ioun stones either. It is entirely irrelevant for the purpose of comparing character classes. You DO understand what we're trying to do here, don't you? How very nice of you. I'll bet you even know all the words to "Kumbaya". What your rogue does is a matter of profound indifference to me, and the other six billion people on the planet. Yes, yes, your ONE-INCH TITANIUM PENIS is smaller than mine. Okay, I believe you. For people who play RIFTS, certainly. YOU CAN TELL THAT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE MAJERE POSTED IN ALL CAPS. FEAR HIM! FEEEEAAARRR HIMMM!!!! This kinda schtick would work better if you actually showed any sign of cognitive ability past 7th grade, you know. No. This one particular class is based on precedents that strongly suggest it should be able to hold its own in combat. The class fails to do this, therefore it's a badly designed class. This argument does not apply to any arbitrary class, but only this one. Perhaps if I post in small words, it will be easier to understand. Monk in chop-socky movies kick butt. Monk in D&D no kick butt. Monk do right stuff bad. Monk do wrong stuff good. Unfortunately there's two words with more than one syllable in there, but hopefully you should still be able get the gist of it. You have demonstrated no such thing, kid. Try again. IOW: you demonstrated no such thing, as I said. IOW: monks are problematic in combat, as I said. IOW: your build as posted was pointless, as I said. Is this more of that funky new math I've heard about? Ah. This must be some new meaning of the word "same" I wasn't previously aware of. Well, respectable to someone who plays a rogue who's useless in combat, anyway. Meanwhile in the real world, it's 12 midnight. DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR CHILDREN ARE? That is 1) a fraction of the damage 2) of a fighter who isn't optimised for damage output 3) in a subset of all combat situations. You're doing well so far. And the fighter could just as easily be enlarged as well. This is the third time you have failed to comprehend this, O dimmest of wits. But never mind, the cluebat builds character. I will say, for the third time, in hopes of getting through to your tiny brain: nobody cares. The monk will live through crap that can kill lots of other people. Nobody cares. The character is not a major threat, relatively speaking, and since that is the prime driver of satisfaction for most people, the class has problems. YOU may care that your monk has stratospheric AC and saves, but your preferences are completely irrelevant to anyone except yourself. Except maybe to demonstrate to all and sundry your inability to follow the argument presented, but that's no bad thing. You know, there's no shame in just admitting you don't have a clue what's going on. Really. Clearly I will have to post in small words again. Monk live through crap. Only so much crap in the world. Monk no dish out crap. Dish out crap good. Monk no dish out crap, so monk no good. Comprende, RIFTS boy? Ah, another glimmer of understanding! It makes it all worthwhile. No, really. Nonsense. Oh dear, RIFTS boy is babbling again. Please, not the "it's all chess to me" argument. Do not make me drag out the dinosaurs. [/QUOTE]

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