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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8741920" data-attributes="member: 15700">Both claims in this statement are false, based only on your own biases and guesses.&nbsp; I.e., what you may think is a good idea is hardly objective truth.So unless you have some sort of evidence that shows it's the &quot;grognards&quot; who &quot;shouted down&quot; all of the good ideas, and have evidence that grognards somehow outnumbered everyone else and no longer do, I'm pretty sure your comment is false.&nbsp; I think it's pretty obvious that &quot;grognards&quot; have always been in the minority post WotC era as a ratio of the player base.Look.&nbsp; WotC is a business.&nbsp; The only thing they care about is getting the largest number of players as possible.&nbsp; This is not catering to grognards.&nbsp; It just isn't. The math doesn't hash out.&nbsp; Just like the meteoric rise of 5e isn't due to all the grognards coming back into the game.&nbsp; A whole lot of people who like 5e and came to the game never played TSR era edition games, and certainly aren't grognards.With this new revision, WoTC is once again going to make a decision based on what will expand the game and maximize profits according to the data they have.&nbsp; And make no mistake, WoTC has a lot more access to player demographics and preferences than you or I do, unless you have some special access to all of their survey results.&nbsp; No, what I think is much more likely is people thinking their preference is in the majority when it's not, and when their preference isn't put into the game, they want to blame someone else.&nbsp; That's how your comment reads to me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8741920, member: 15700"] Both claims in this statement are false, based only on your own biases and guesses. I.e., what you may think is a good idea is hardly objective truth. So unless you have some sort of evidence that shows it's the "grognards" who "shouted down" all of the good ideas, and have evidence that grognards somehow outnumbered everyone else and no longer do, I'm pretty sure your comment is false. I think it's pretty obvious that "grognards" have always been in the minority post WotC era as a ratio of the player base. Look. WotC is a business. The only thing they care about is getting the largest number of players as possible. This is not catering to grognards. It just isn't. The math doesn't hash out. Just like the meteoric rise of 5e isn't due to all the grognards coming back into the game. A whole lot of people who like 5e and came to the game never played TSR era edition games, and certainly aren't grognards. With this new revision, WoTC is once again going to make a decision based on what will expand the game and maximize profits according to the data they have. And make no mistake, WoTC has a lot more access to player demographics and preferences than you or I do, unless you have some special access to all of their survey results. No, what I think is much more likely is people [I]thinking [/I]their preference is in the majority when it's not, and when their preference isn't put into the game, they want to blame someone else. That's how your comment reads to me. [/QUOTE]

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