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<blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 5132481" data-attributes="member: 3586"><p>I'm sorry, but huh?</p><p></p><p>From a recent <a href="http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1122" target="_blank">interview with Christian Peterson</a> of FFG:</p><p></p><p><strong>Q: Speaking of BattleLore, the main BattleLore game has been out of print for a while. Will this come back into print?</strong></p><p></p><p><em>CP: There have been, and continue to be, some very serious issues in reconciling the production methods and expectations in the way Days of Wonder produced the BattleLore main game with those of FFG. We understand the lack of availability is an issue and we’re working on a solution. This issue has also affected the German version of BattleLore, while there are still good supplies of the French edition.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>There’s a particular trap in manufacturing games, and it’s one that applies here. The initial printing of a game is typically printed in large volumes, which means that certain efficiencies of this volume are not able to be replicated in a smaller (i.e. reprint level) production. This is a trap that FFG works hard to avoid in its own manufacturing, but the original BattleLore printing was of course not in our production control. Not only was BattleLore caught in this trap, but the game was priced aggressively to begin with, even assuming the best of production efficiencies. On top of that, the factory that DOW used for this production essentially admitted to pricing their manufacturing of the original BattleLore “to get the business in the door” -- which means that the costing levels on the first run was eminently underpriced.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>This, set against the overall backdrop of an already steeply escalating cost in game manufacturing, has made the core game a serious issue. Reprinting the core game “as is,” would essentially result in a near $150 retail price point, which is obviously unacceptable.</em></p><p></p><p>And:</p><p><strong>Q: Will the classic BattleLore game continue to be supported?</strong></p><p><em>CP: Yes. We are working on new releases as we speak, one of which will be announced on the FFG site in the near future.</em></p><p></p><p>That's a big difference from FFG pulling the plug on BattleLore.</p><p></p><p>Days of Wonder not only made the price of the core set of BattleLore quite low, the manufacturer made it for far less than it should have been. It's not that the economy can't sustain it at the price it was produced at... it never <em>could</em> sustain it!</p><p></p><p>The next expansion set, btw, is <em><strong>Horrific Horde</strong></em>, a goblin set. 42 figures - some reprints, some new, including an Ogre mini. <a href="http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1201" target="_blank">FFG announcment.</a></p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MerricB, post: 5132481, member: 3586"] I'm sorry, but huh? From a recent [url=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1122]interview with Christian Peterson[/url] of FFG: [b]Q: Speaking of BattleLore, the main BattleLore game has been out of print for a while. Will this come back into print?[/b] [i]CP: There have been, and continue to be, some very serious issues in reconciling the production methods and expectations in the way Days of Wonder produced the BattleLore main game with those of FFG. We understand the lack of availability is an issue and we’re working on a solution. This issue has also affected the German version of BattleLore, while there are still good supplies of the French edition. There’s a particular trap in manufacturing games, and it’s one that applies here. The initial printing of a game is typically printed in large volumes, which means that certain efficiencies of this volume are not able to be replicated in a smaller (i.e. reprint level) production. This is a trap that FFG works hard to avoid in its own manufacturing, but the original BattleLore printing was of course not in our production control. Not only was BattleLore caught in this trap, but the game was priced aggressively to begin with, even assuming the best of production efficiencies. On top of that, the factory that DOW used for this production essentially admitted to pricing their manufacturing of the original BattleLore “to get the business in the door” -- which means that the costing levels on the first run was eminently underpriced. This, set against the overall backdrop of an already steeply escalating cost in game manufacturing, has made the core game a serious issue. Reprinting the core game “as is,” would essentially result in a near $150 retail price point, which is obviously unacceptable.[/i] And: [b]Q: Will the classic BattleLore game continue to be supported?[/b] [i]CP: Yes. We are working on new releases as we speak, one of which will be announced on the FFG site in the near future.[/i] That's a big difference from FFG pulling the plug on BattleLore. Days of Wonder not only made the price of the core set of BattleLore quite low, the manufacturer made it for far less than it should have been. It's not that the economy can't sustain it at the price it was produced at... it never [i]could[/i] sustain it! The next expansion set, btw, is [i][b]Horrific Horde[/b][/i], a goblin set. 42 figures - some reprints, some new, including an Ogre mini. [url=http://www.fantasyflightgames.com/edge_news.asp?eidn=1201]FFG announcment.[/url] Cheers! [/QUOTE]
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