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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2817714" data-attributes="member: 22779">That's a bit of a stretch.&nbsp; Unearthed Arcana has been out for what, two years?&nbsp; Alternative rules have been coming out of WOTC at about the same time as &quot;core&quot; rules.&nbsp; Granted, there seems to be some evolution - the use of CR as a mechanic seems to be cropping up here and there - but, I'm not sure that we can point to variant rules.&nbsp; The Options books for 2e came out pretty late in the game, same as the original Unearthed Arcana.&nbsp; 3e has seen far more varient books much sooner.&nbsp; Particularly from the d20 blokes.And, I think the idea that the AP will be a marker is a good one.&nbsp; The AP's have been hugely successful.&nbsp; Think about it, what adventure from Dungeon has ever seen reprint?&nbsp; Dungeon's been a going concern for what, 15, 20 years?&nbsp; Shackled City is the first time we've seen hardcover Dungeon adventures.&nbsp; That says to me, at least, that they've been extremely successful.I'm thinking we won't see 4e announced until Gen Con 2008 and then released shortly thereafter with a new AP for 4e on its heels.&nbsp; That would be a very big impetus for buying the new game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 2817714, member: 22779"] That's a bit of a stretch. Unearthed Arcana has been out for what, two years? Alternative rules have been coming out of WOTC at about the same time as "core" rules. Granted, there seems to be some evolution - the use of CR as a mechanic seems to be cropping up here and there - but, I'm not sure that we can point to variant rules. The Options books for 2e came out pretty late in the game, same as the original Unearthed Arcana. 3e has seen far more varient books much sooner. Particularly from the d20 blokes. And, I think the idea that the AP will be a marker is a good one. The AP's have been hugely successful. Think about it, what adventure from Dungeon has ever seen reprint? Dungeon's been a going concern for what, 15, 20 years? Shackled City is the first time we've seen hardcover Dungeon adventures. That says to me, at least, that they've been extremely successful. I'm thinking we won't see 4e announced until Gen Con 2008 and then released shortly thereafter with a new AP for 4e on its heels. That would be a very big impetus for buying the new game. [/QUOTE]

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