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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 6002067" data-attributes="member: 54877">There real problem here is one that I pointed out over a year ago:&nbsp; All the good, established names for something vaguely wizard-like have been hijacked in recent culture to mean something very much in keeping with the D&amp;D wizard idea--potent spellcaster in robes.&nbsp; This is despite the fact that not all of these names are necessarily associated with such an archetype.&nbsp; &nbsp;Now maybe &quot;sorcerer&quot; is not the best one to repurpose, but then which one do you pick?&nbsp; My choice was &quot;witch&quot; when I last brought that up, but that has its own issues.&nbsp; &quot;Gish&quot; stinks!&nbsp; I guess we could go way back and call all fighter/mages &quot;elves&quot;. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />&nbsp; &quot;Loremaster&quot; would be a good choice, if people can get over that lousy 3E prestige class making it a sage synonym.&nbsp; How about &quot;druid&quot;?&nbsp; That's more of a priest/wizard mix in myth, and really should be used for that.&nbsp; &quot;Bard&quot;?&nbsp; Well, if we can get back to &quot;wizard-like guy in a martial culture who can wield weapons and magic&quot; and relegate the &quot;alternate tricky guy&quot; stuff to illusion instead of rogue abilties.&nbsp; If not those, nominate something better that isn't more of the &quot;compound name&quot; silliness. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />&nbsp;No matter what you pick, it has implications for other classes.&nbsp; Let's not pretend like it doesn't.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 6002067, member: 54877"] There real problem here is one that I pointed out over a year ago: All the good, established names for something vaguely wizard-like have been hijacked in recent culture to mean something very much in keeping with the D&D wizard idea--potent spellcaster in robes. This is despite the fact that not all of these names are necessarily associated with such an archetype. Now maybe "sorcerer" is not the best one to repurpose, but then which one do you pick? My choice was "witch" when I last brought that up, but that has its own issues. "Gish" stinks! I guess we could go way back and call all fighter/mages "elves". :D "Loremaster" would be a good choice, if people can get over that lousy 3E prestige class making it a sage synonym. How about "druid"? That's more of a priest/wizard mix in myth, and really should be used for that. "Bard"? Well, if we can get back to "wizard-like guy in a martial culture who can wield weapons and magic" and relegate the "alternate tricky guy" stuff to illusion instead of rogue abilties. If not those, nominate something better that isn't more of the "compound name" silliness. ;) No matter what you pick, it has implications for other classes. Let's not pretend like it doesn't. [/QUOTE]

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