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<blockquote data-quote="Danzauker" data-source="post: 6002402" data-attributes="member: 1929">While I wholehartedly agree with you with the name paranoia, I don't agree with the *boring* part.One of the greatest current dealbreakers seems to be (well it is at least for me) the possibility to play a non Vancian wizard. That was probably the only motivation of introducing the sorcerer in 3E.While I agree that the most logical implementation in 5E would be through a wizard &quot;tradition&quot; or whatever they want to call it, if it would show too complicated to stick a spell point or mana system or whathever in the wizard class description, I surely would prefer a different class.They can call it mage, arcanist, thaumaturge, magician, harrypotter, I don't care, as long as they give me a non Vancian wizard, please!P.S. I really like 5E sorcerers and warlocks as they are. Crunch.wise and fluff-wise. I'm only alittle perplexed by the choice of presenting the sample sorcerer &quot;build&quot; so tank focused instead of a more &quot;traditional&quot; one. It would have caused less eyebrow raising.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Danzauker, post: 6002402, member: 1929"] While I wholehartedly agree with you with the name paranoia, I don't agree with the *boring* part. One of the greatest current dealbreakers seems to be (well it is at least for me) the possibility to play a non Vancian wizard. That was probably the only motivation of introducing the sorcerer in 3E. While I agree that the most logical implementation in 5E would be through a wizard "tradition" or whatever they want to call it, if it would show too complicated to stick a spell point or mana system or whathever in the wizard class description, I surely would prefer a different class. They can call it mage, arcanist, thaumaturge, magician, harrypotter, I don't care, as long as they give me a non Vancian wizard, please! P.S. I really like 5E sorcerers and warlocks as they are. Crunch.wise and fluff-wise. I'm only alittle perplexed by the choice of presenting the sample sorcerer "build" so tank focused instead of a more "traditional" one. It would have caused less eyebrow raising. [/QUOTE]

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