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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Firebird" data-source="post: 9714905" data-attributes="member: 7015803">Honestly I'm not interested in going into the details given the tone of the conversation. I know I'm not going to convince you of anything and I don't see much point to trying. In general I think there is a complex situation here. You mentioned EU regulations. There are also concerns in the US. It is easy to write off the people asking for actions as "Aussie idiots", but there are also reasons to think the US environment has changed drastically with respect to what actions are subject to regulatory punishment. My own industry, academia, has gotten walloped, for actions most people did not think were going to lead to regulation. (Some did). I am allergic to the idea that complex situations like this are obvious or that there is a clear answer. That includes the idea that the executives are always right; they can and do make massive errors. But it also includes the idea that someone on the internet knows exactly what a massive corporation should do, and especially that that conclusion is obvious.</blockquote>