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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9715569" data-attributes="member: 18">I think a lunatic with a shotgun shot a man in the street, and it just happened that that guy was a murderous rapist, put it like that.The same lunatic though has been running around firing his shotgun at college students, people who outed his wife's dodgy behaviour, anyone who doesn't think white people are "the real victims", and so on. So bad behaviour leading to a good thing happening is kinda good, but it's bad if it keeps happening, isn't it?Also yeah, there's difference between:A) ALREADY ILLEGAL real videos of real people being raped/abused and so on. REAL being the key word.B) LEGAL entirely fictional stories/comics/games which push some boundaries, some of which are pretty extreme, many of which are mild and far less extreme than say, many Shakespeare plays or Greek myths. Indeed, the new rules on itch.io rule out quite a few of Shakespeare's plays from appearing on there!I'd like you to acknowledge that distinction. Someone shooting at the former, it's already illegal by the laws of the land, so yeah, okay, I'm not too bothered. Shooting at the latter? Uhoh.Absolutely not.The person in question did not do this as an "ESG investor". He did it because he's a lunatic who thinks he is the main character of planet Earth and throws his (considerable) financial and political weight around constantly and for insane (or even inane!) reasons. This wasn't some well-considered and concerted effort, it was a lunatic bullying a guy who he knew IRL, and that guy (<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajay_Banga" target="_blank">Banga</a>) acted in significant part because there would be personal social consequences in NY upper-crust society for him if he didn't (he lives in NYC and is part of the NYC intelligentsia/elite I described). So trying to pretend it was an ESG thing is hilarious nonsense. This isn't ESG - this is ultra-rich NYC residents pushing each other around.You did actually assert Kristof was "correct generally", or appeared to - why else should I care about his aging jerk opinion? You didn't present a logical basis, just "he was right one time before" - so yeah I'm not really buying that.Ackman's behaviour is absolutely vital to even the most basic and trivial understanding of events. Without the context I've provided, he might look like a sane or decent person. He might look different the Aussie nutcases. But he isn't. He's fundamentally the same kind of egotist/main character, he's just extremely, extremely rich.No.If you are pretending there is not a difference between:A) Illegal videos that exploit real people and are horrifying records of crimes.B) Legal horny stories/games/comics with dubious consent or furries or other dodgy elements.Then you are, at best, not making any kind of serious argument. So you're make a false claim equivocation here it seems. I'm fine with the other stuff being made to go away because it was ALREADY ILLEGAL I don't know how I can be more clear about that. Existing-at-the-time British, American and other laws made that material illegal, but Pornhub etc. were failing to enforce them. Do you understand the difference between illegal and legal material?</blockquote>

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