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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9715586" data-attributes="member: 18">That's clearly not what they're doing, because they've banned tons of material that is definitely, unquestionably legal in the US and EU, and the standards they're demanding are very obviously not legality-related, or even ESG-related in any normal way.I would suggest you stop trying to suggest bullying and ESG are the same thing. My brother in christ, I was literally working on ESG-related documents on Friday, for a major corporation. ESG stuff that's genuinely considered doesn't happen rapidly. It happens slowly, carefully, and cautiously, and considers both sides of the law - i.e. are you violating consumer rights or free speech laws - unquestionably EU consumer rights laws have been violated here, for example.Whereas both examples we have are knee-jerk reflexes that happened in days. One was okayish because the material was already democratically made illegal, one was bad, because the material was and remains legal in a democratic and free society (as it should, given making it illegal would also make, say, a bunch of Shakespeare plays illegal). And frankly, we'd have been a lot better off if Visa/Mastercard had done nothing to Pornhub, but instead democratically elected governments and law enforcement organisations had acted. But Ackman thinks he's the main character of the planet, so instead of allowing that to happen, which might take days/weeks, as soon as he read his pal Kristof's article, he decided to publicly bully a man who exists in the exact same social spheres as him (and for that matter, Kristof) - i.e. very rich NYC residents who are on a lot of fancy committees (and by the way, are literally one ONE degree of separation away from ME personally because I know a lot of fairly posh people who do or have lived in NYC), because he knew that would work. It's Old Boys' Network basically. As a Brit I know that's never ultimately a good thing even if it randomly gets used for good occasionally.</blockquote>

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