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<blockquote data-quote="Not a Decepticon" data-source="post: 9715887" data-attributes="member: 7020527"><p>1. For many venues, like books or ttrpgs or video games, and many publishers - yes they are. Sorry to break it to you, but adults have right to produce nsfw content and be paid for it by other adults, who made concious decision to want to pay for such kind of material. For many creators those were the only avialable avenues to make living of their art. The only "other sources" that cannot be bullied by credit card companies are places that <em>steal</em> such content and make it accessible online without permission or compensation for the creator. I want to strech this is a valid reason to oppose these bans in its own even if next points didn't contribute.</p><p>2. Have you ever adressed the fact that these bans are skewed towards disproportionatelly targetting LGBTQ+ content, not only nsfw one? Have you ever adressed how this is "foot in the door" tactic that is well known by bigots, and whose next after getting "porn" banned step is to declare everything featuring queer people as inherently pornographic? On<a href="https://bsky.app/profile/mandoqueer.itch.io/post/3luwbu2wzjs2f" target="_blank"> the spreadsheet I posted above</a> <em>the very first position</em> is a dress up game about being trans. If you scroll even a bit you will see titles that don't seem to be pornographic at all but merely feature erotic content, like <a href="https://das-kunstkollektiv.itch.io/llrpg" target="_blank">Lovely Lady RPG</a> or <a href="https://ladzwriting.itch.io/the-cradle-of-eternal-night" target="_blank">the Cradle of Eternal Night</a>. And these positions are <em>tame</em> compared to what you can find in mainstream books like the Witcher or A Song of Ice and Fire. There is even<a href="https://itch.io/b/3200/fighting-back" target="_blank"> this bundle</a> of shadowbanned books, pointing out that not all of them are nsfw AND many of them are queer and itch.io's system seems to disproportionatelly target the latter.</p><p>3. It's not a free world if a bussiness makes itself an arbiter of what people can or cannot buy on a store it doesn't even own. Trying to just yell "It's free market, lol, bussiness can do whatever it wants" is, quite frankly, a thought terminating cliche and appears as an attempt to shoto down the discussion, not a geniue argument contributing to it. Especially with how you are repeating it without adressing points like the above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Not a Decepticon, post: 9715887, member: 7020527"] 1. For many venues, like books or ttrpgs or video games, and many publishers - yes they are. Sorry to break it to you, but adults have right to produce nsfw content and be paid for it by other adults, who made concious decision to want to pay for such kind of material. For many creators those were the only avialable avenues to make living of their art. The only "other sources" that cannot be bullied by credit card companies are places that [I]steal[/I] such content and make it accessible online without permission or compensation for the creator. I want to strech this is a valid reason to oppose these bans in its own even if next points didn't contribute. 2. Have you ever adressed the fact that these bans are skewed towards disproportionatelly targetting LGBTQ+ content, not only nsfw one? Have you ever adressed how this is "foot in the door" tactic that is well known by bigots, and whose next after getting "porn" banned step is to declare everything featuring queer people as inherently pornographic? On[URL='https://bsky.app/profile/mandoqueer.itch.io/post/3luwbu2wzjs2f'] the spreadsheet I posted above[/URL] [I]the very first position[/I] is a dress up game about being trans. If you scroll even a bit you will see titles that don't seem to be pornographic at all but merely feature erotic content, like [URL='https://das-kunstkollektiv.itch.io/llrpg']Lovely Lady RPG[/URL] or [URL='https://ladzwriting.itch.io/the-cradle-of-eternal-night']the Cradle of Eternal Night[/URL]. And these positions are [I]tame[/I] compared to what you can find in mainstream books like the Witcher or A Song of Ice and Fire. There is even[URL='https://itch.io/b/3200/fighting-back'] this bundle[/URL] of shadowbanned books, pointing out that not all of them are nsfw AND many of them are queer and itch.io's system seems to disproportionatelly target the latter. 3. It's not a free world if a bussiness makes itself an arbiter of what people can or cannot buy on a store it doesn't even own. Trying to just yell "It's free market, lol, bussiness can do whatever it wants" is, quite frankly, a thought terminating cliche and appears as an attempt to shoto down the discussion, not a geniue argument contributing to it. Especially with how you are repeating it without adressing points like the above. [/QUOTE]
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