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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2144814" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>This is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.</p><p></p><p>Not only can anyone put anything non-offensive in their sigs that they desire, I also do not see a sig for DCollins. So, maybe he just recently removed it, but in either case, your point here is not a discussion of the rules and doesn't belong in the rules forum. If you ever have a problem with his sig, please send it directly to the moderators instead of posting it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And to ensure that my post here has some relevance, I would like to reiterate DCollin's point that the errata totally disagrees with the Armor and Weapon Item Creation rules and is illogical for them.</p><p></p><p>"For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the creator. The minimum caster level is that which is needed to meet the prerequisites given." doesn't make sense for Armor or Weapons whereas the original text "For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the item itself..." since that means that any 5th level caster (minimum level for the Craft feat) can create any weapon or armor that does not have an associated higher level spell pre-requisite. A 5th level caster can create a +5 Longsword according to this errata because the only pre-requisite for a +5 Longsword is to have the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat.</p><p></p><p>The errata has an obvious error in it on this as written ("For other magic items" refers to all non-potions, non-scrolls, and non-wands in that paragraph, not just Rings, Rods, Staves, and Wondrous Items).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2144814, member: 2011"] This is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Not only can anyone put anything non-offensive in their sigs that they desire, I also do not see a sig for DCollins. So, maybe he just recently removed it, but in either case, your point here is not a discussion of the rules and doesn't belong in the rules forum. If you ever have a problem with his sig, please send it directly to the moderators instead of posting it. And to ensure that my post here has some relevance, I would like to reiterate DCollin's point that the errata totally disagrees with the Armor and Weapon Item Creation rules and is illogical for them. "For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the creator. The minimum caster level is that which is needed to meet the prerequisites given." doesn't make sense for Armor or Weapons whereas the original text "For other magic items, the caster level is determined by the item itself..." since that means that any 5th level caster (minimum level for the Craft feat) can create any weapon or armor that does not have an associated higher level spell pre-requisite. A 5th level caster can create a +5 Longsword according to this errata because the only pre-requisite for a +5 Longsword is to have the Craft Magic Arms and Armor feat. The errata has an obvious error in it on this as written ("For other magic items" refers to all non-potions, non-scrolls, and non-wands in that paragraph, not just Rings, Rods, Staves, and Wondrous Items). [/QUOTE]
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