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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 2146254" data-attributes="member: 23094">Note, however, that a Bard cannot cast the Toungues spell until 4th-level, so the minimum price is 2 * 4 * 1,800gp, or 14,400gp.This command activated item lasts for 40 minutes.A cleric can craft it instead, but as you say, for a cleric, it's a 4th-level spell.&nbsp; The minimum a cleric can make such an item for is 4 * 7 * 1,800gp, or 50,400gp.This command activated item lasts for 70 minutes.A wizard can craft it instead, and for him it's a 3rd-level spell.&nbsp; The minimum a wizard can make such an item for is 3 * 5 * 1,800go, or 27,000gp.This command activated item lasts for 50 minutes.Now, here's the real catch ...A bard can make such an item that lasts for as long as the cleric's version does.&nbsp; For him, it costs 2 * 7 * 1,800gp, or 25,200gp.However, any of the above listed guys can just hire a passing, 4th-level or better, appropriately trained bard, and have him provide the prerequisite spell.&nbsp; The minimum caster level, therefore, is 4th, and the bard just needs a couple gold per day to pay for the two weeks he'll be helping you, and then anyone can make the item at CL 4.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 2146254, member: 23094"] Note, however, that a Bard cannot cast the Toungues spell until 4th-level, so the minimum price is 2 * 4 * 1,800gp, or 14,400gp. This command activated item lasts for 40 minutes. A cleric can craft it instead, but as you say, for a cleric, it's a 4th-level spell. The minimum a cleric can make such an item for is 4 * 7 * 1,800gp, or 50,400gp. This command activated item lasts for [b]70[/b] minutes. A wizard can craft it instead, and for him it's a 3rd-level spell. The minimum a wizard can make such an item for is 3 * 5 * 1,800go, or 27,000gp. This command activated item lasts for [b]50[/b] minutes. Now, here's the real catch ... A bard can make such an item that lasts for as long as the cleric's version does. For him, it costs 2 * 7 * 1,800gp, or 25,200gp. However, any of the above listed guys can just hire a passing, 4th-level or better, appropriately trained bard, and have [b]him[/b] provide the prerequisite spell. The minimum caster level, therefore, is 4th, and the bard just needs a couple gold per day to pay for the two weeks he'll be helping you, and then anyone can make the item at CL 4. [/QUOTE]

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