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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 1210747" data-attributes="member: 284">&quot;absolutely no rules text&quot;? What BS. Several people have pointed out things that support that assertion. &nbsp;Declaring yourself right and ignoring the counter arguements does nothing but hurt your own credibility. &nbsp;The facts are that there is some ambiguous wording that can be read to agree with the designers intent, and some non-ambigous wording that flatly contradicts some other non-ambigous text. &nbsp;If you go with what the designers say the intent was, the contradiction goes away, but you have to use a less than obvious interpretation of some text. &nbsp;If you go with the most likely interpretation, then you have some items that have two different caster level requirements, which is a direct contradiction in the rules. &nbsp;Face it, the item creation rules are messed up. Still. Pick whichever version makes the most sense to you and stop pretending that there is only one correct way to read it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 1210747, member: 284"] "absolutely no rules text"? What BS. Several people have pointed out things that support that assertion. Declaring yourself right and ignoring the counter arguements does nothing but hurt your own credibility. The [b]facts[/b] are that there is some ambiguous wording that can be read to agree with the designers intent, and some non-ambigous wording that flatly contradicts some other non-ambigous text. If you go with what the designers say the intent was, the contradiction goes away, but you have to use a less than obvious interpretation of some text. If you go with the most likely interpretation, then you have some items that have two different caster level requirements, which is a direct contradiction in the rules. Face it, the item creation rules are messed up. Still. Pick whichever version makes the most sense to you and stop pretending that there is only one correct way to read it. [/QUOTE]

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