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<blockquote data-quote="Janos Audron" data-source="post: 1213238" data-attributes="member: 4649"><p>LOL! No seriously, LOL!</p><p></p><p>This means that if you are 20th level, you cannot create Ioun Stones, since your caster level must be as high as the item's caster level!</p><p></p><p>More serious:</p><p></p><p>The first part means that, when you are a 10th level Wizard, you cannot create items with caster level 11. This sounds obvious, but stay with me:</p><p></p><p>A scroll can be created between minimum level of the spell and your caster level. Other magic items can be of any caster level.</p><p></p><p>Then, your quote.</p><p></p><p>Now, they define the caster level of items, so that a third level wizard cannot create an item with caster level 10. "the creator's caster level must be as high as the item's caster level" means that when you are third level, you can make items with caster level 3. And more: you can create *all* wonderous items, but just at caster level 3, and you decide to make a Gem of Seeing...</p><p></p><p>"and prerequisites may effectively put a higher minimum on the creator's level"</p><p></p><p>...and then you read the prerequisites for a Gem of Seeing. Whoops, you need True Seeing. Since you cannot cast that spell until you are level 9, this has "effectivly put a higher minimum on the creator's level".</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Indeed, the "caster level *requirements*", which means that, when no CL is given in the prerequisite section, the CL defaults to the lowest CL of the higest spell in the prerequisites section.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janos Audron, post: 1213238, member: 4649"] LOL! No seriously, LOL! This means that if you are 20th level, you cannot create Ioun Stones, since your caster level must be as high as the item's caster level! More serious: The first part means that, when you are a 10th level Wizard, you cannot create items with caster level 11. This sounds obvious, but stay with me: A scroll can be created between minimum level of the spell and your caster level. Other magic items can be of any caster level. Then, your quote. Now, they define the caster level of items, so that a third level wizard cannot create an item with caster level 10. "the creator's caster level must be as high as the item's caster level" means that when you are third level, you can make items with caster level 3. And more: you can create *all* wonderous items, but just at caster level 3, and you decide to make a Gem of Seeing... "and prerequisites may effectively put a higher minimum on the creator's level" ...and then you read the prerequisites for a Gem of Seeing. Whoops, you need True Seeing. Since you cannot cast that spell until you are level 9, this has "effectivly put a higher minimum on the creator's level". Indeed, the "caster level *requirements*", which means that, when no CL is given in the prerequisite section, the CL defaults to the lowest CL of the higest spell in the prerequisites section. [/QUOTE]
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