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<blockquote data-quote="Silverglass" data-source="post: 1218691" data-attributes="member: 14071"><p>What it says is that level in the prerequistes is a miscellaneous requirement, Caster Level as it applies in the form of the CL of the item itself is actually an attribute of the item and is separate from the prerequisites, but the creator must have a caster level "as high as" the item CL. </p><p></p><p>And it also plainly says that that anything listed in the prerequisites section could be supplied by another character. So unless it specifically says "creator" in the prerequisites no prerequisite in any way sets a mandatory lower limit on the level of the creator unless they supply it themselves. </p><p></p><p>In Crafting Magic Items it says:</p><p>"Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item’s creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed)."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ioun stones say "creator must be 12th level" which means just that, the Creator must be 12th level. It may be redundant but it still does not directly contradict the general rules.</p><p></p><p>Taking the rules as written a CL11 item with a prerequisite of a 6th level spell could be created by an 11th Level sorceror (acting as the Creator) with access to a 1/day item of that spell, or x scrolls of the spell (1 for each day of creation) or an 11th level wizard who provides the spell each day of creation or a creature of any level who has the spell as a spell-like ability. This also allows the Sorceror to create items whose prerequisite spell is not in his limited "spells known" list.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes it does, primarily because potions have a separate declaration to, say, wondrous items as regards caster level in that CL is a variable for potions. So 3rd level caster could create a Potion of Vision if a 6th level caster helps them out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silverglass, post: 1218691, member: 14071"] What it says is that level in the prerequistes is a miscellaneous requirement, Caster Level as it applies in the form of the CL of the item itself is actually an attribute of the item and is separate from the prerequisites, but the creator must have a caster level "as high as" the item CL. And it also plainly says that that anything listed in the prerequisites section could be supplied by another character. So unless it specifically says "creator" in the prerequisites no prerequisite in any way sets a mandatory lower limit on the level of the creator unless they supply it themselves. In Crafting Magic Items it says: "Note that all items have prerequisites in their descriptions. These prerequisites must be met for the item to be created. Most of the time, they take the form of spells that must be known by the item’s creator (although access through another magic item or spellcaster is allowed)." Ioun stones say "creator must be 12th level" which means just that, the Creator must be 12th level. It may be redundant but it still does not directly contradict the general rules. Taking the rules as written a CL11 item with a prerequisite of a 6th level spell could be created by an 11th Level sorceror (acting as the Creator) with access to a 1/day item of that spell, or x scrolls of the spell (1 for each day of creation) or an 11th level wizard who provides the spell each day of creation or a creature of any level who has the spell as a spell-like ability. This also allows the Sorceror to create items whose prerequisite spell is not in his limited "spells known" list. Yes it does, primarily because potions have a separate declaration to, say, wondrous items as regards caster level in that CL is a variable for potions. So 3rd level caster could create a Potion of Vision if a 6th level caster helps them out. [/QUOTE]
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