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<blockquote data-quote="Pax" data-source="post: 532309" data-attributes="member: 6875">The only rules youwill find, are those which describe the Weave and Shadow Weave as wholly seperate forms of magic.By comparison -- in terms of spellcasters in teh FR, divine or arcane; druid, bard, wizard, paladin, or other; it's all (normally) done through the Weave.However, when a spellcaster turns to the shadow weave, they GIVE UP their connection to that magic, and can never again cast spells using the Weave.The shadow weave operates under different rules -- it can NEVER generate light, for example.So, my analogy of oil and water is a good one.Especially if you consider what the Shadow Weave IS: it is everything, and everyWHERE, that the Weave is not.&nbsp; It is antimatter, to the Weave's Matter.Wild magic and Dead magic areas based on disruptions to the Weave, don't affect use of the Shadow Weave (which is one way DM's can pull evil tricks, and have the enemy retain their spells/magic item functions, in what is (to the PC's) a Dead Magic zone ...).Neitehr book clearly states, outright, that the two sorts of spellcaster cannot work together.&nbsp; But they shouldn't be able to.Regardless, under the description of the Shadow Weave Magic feat, it says &quot;From now on, any magic item you create is a Shadow Weave item.&quot;&nbsp; And those pose serious dangers to Weave-users ...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pax, post: 532309, member: 6875"] The only rules youwill find, are those which describe the Weave and Shadow Weave as wholly seperate forms of magic. By comparison -- in terms of spellcasters in teh FR, divine or arcane; druid, bard, wizard, paladin, or other; it's all (normally) done through the Weave. However, when a spellcaster turns to the shadow weave, they GIVE UP their connection to that magic, and can never again cast spells using the Weave. The shadow weave operates under different rules -- it can NEVER generate light, for example. So, my analogy of oil and water is a good one. Especially if you consider what the Shadow Weave IS: it is everything, and everyWHERE, that the Weave is [b]not[/b]. It is antimatter, to the Weave's Matter. Wild magic and Dead magic areas based on disruptions to the Weave, don't affect use of the Shadow Weave (which is one way DM's can pull evil tricks, and have the enemy retain their spells/magic item functions, in what is (to the PC's) a Dead Magic zone ...). Neitehr book clearly states, outright, that the two sorts of spellcaster cannot work together. But they [b]shouldn't[/b] be able to. Regardless, under the description of the Shadow Weave Magic feat, it says "From now on, any magic item you create is a Shadow Weave item." And those pose serious dangers to Weave-users ... [/QUOTE]

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