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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 1963018" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Whew! I was worried there for a second! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably. Apart from the stuff menioned by Electric Dragon below, I couldn't find anything else on a quick pass through that section of the SRD.</p><p></p><p>Was there something in particular you had a question about?</p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p></p><p>Here's an example of an item where the formulae are specifically called out as not working:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Notice that the *actual* gp cost to create the item is 2,150gp. That would make its base price 4,300 gp. A 4,300 gp base price implies an XP cost of 172 XP.</p><p></p><p>Oddly enough, the XP cost to actually create the thing - 1,712 XP - is equal to 1,540 XP (the amount of XP given to the user to create the golem with) + 172 XP (the cost to create the base item).</p><p></p><p>The additional XP, when priced at the standard 5gp per point, comes out to an increase in the market price of 1,540 * 5 = 7,700 gp. You can probably see this one coming, but 7,700 gp + 4,300 gp (the base price of the base item) is equal to 12,000 gp - the market price.</p><p></p><p>So, if you wanted to create a "basic" golem manual - as in, one that didn't provide any XP to use in the creation of the golem - it would likely have a market price of 4,300gp, with a cost to create of 2,150 gp and 172 XP.</p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p></p><p>One last Edit! I swear!</p><p></p><p>The various Stat Manuals (Manual of Quickness in Action, etc.) have similar lines - a market price and a separate cost to create. The cost to create includes the XP expenditure required by the multiple Wish spells. Likewise, the Mattock and Maul of the Titans have separate Market Price and cost to create lines - to account for the masterwork gargantuan warhammer required to make them, no doubt.</p><p></p><p>Basically, as near as I can tell, the formulae work without modification on any item that has only a Price line in its description. Any item for which the formulae do not work has a specified Cost to Create line in its description.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 1963018, member: 23094"] Whew! I was worried there for a second! :D Probably. Apart from the stuff menioned by Electric Dragon below, I couldn't find anything else on a quick pass through that section of the SRD. Was there something in particular you had a question about? EDIT: Here's an example of an item where the formulae are specifically called out as not working: Notice that the *actual* gp cost to create the item is 2,150gp. That would make its base price 4,300 gp. A 4,300 gp base price implies an XP cost of 172 XP. Oddly enough, the XP cost to actually create the thing - 1,712 XP - is equal to 1,540 XP (the amount of XP given to the user to create the golem with) + 172 XP (the cost to create the base item). The additional XP, when priced at the standard 5gp per point, comes out to an increase in the market price of 1,540 * 5 = 7,700 gp. You can probably see this one coming, but 7,700 gp + 4,300 gp (the base price of the base item) is equal to 12,000 gp - the market price. So, if you wanted to create a "basic" golem manual - as in, one that didn't provide any XP to use in the creation of the golem - it would likely have a market price of 4,300gp, with a cost to create of 2,150 gp and 172 XP. :) EDIT: One last Edit! I swear! The various Stat Manuals (Manual of Quickness in Action, etc.) have similar lines - a market price and a separate cost to create. The cost to create includes the XP expenditure required by the multiple Wish spells. Likewise, the Mattock and Maul of the Titans have separate Market Price and cost to create lines - to account for the masterwork gargantuan warhammer required to make them, no doubt. Basically, as near as I can tell, the formulae work without modification on any item that has only a Price line in its description. Any item for which the formulae do not work has a specified Cost to Create line in its description. [/QUOTE]
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