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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6216453" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>So you're saying that it doesn't work by the rules of magic because of the rules of magic? Sorry if I'm being snarky, but the answers I'm seeing don't make any sense. I'm not invoking physics beyond what the rules call for: That objects have weight and size. That the bag has a hard limit on both isn't physics, it's just the rules for a magic item.</p><p></p><p>People seem to be saying that you can't do something stupid thoughtlessly or by accident, only on purpose. I guess I'll have to write it off to "Different DMs, different approached to the rules". </p><p></p><p>Now, why would water rush in? Because there's gravity outside the bag, and things fall. And while I believe that there's gravity inside the bag as well, even if there wasn't the water would still be pushed by the water outside, where gravity still applies. (There are spells to handle water pressure, and it's mentioned in the Planar Handbook, Manual of the Planes and Stormwrack, so I'm only talking about the physics of the game as already defined in the rules.)</p><p></p><p>Now, my argument about why there's gravity inside the bag: Because the rules set a weight limit on what can be inside. If there wasn't gravity then nothing inside would have a "weight", and the rule would become meaningless. So, in effect, the rules describing the bag that say there's a weight limit to what goes inside are also saying that goes inside still has weight.</p><p></p><p>Is there some argument to say otherwise? (Other than, "Because we're in love with the idea"?)</p><p></p><p>I'm actually serious aboot that question, by the way. It isn't rhetorical or argumemtative (though I could see how someone mighttake it that way). Is there anyplace in the rules that says there's no gravity inside a Bag of Holding? I freely admit that I don't own all the books, and certainly haven't memorized even the ones I have. There might be mention of such a thing that I don't know about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6216453, member: 6669384"] So you're saying that it doesn't work by the rules of magic because of the rules of magic? Sorry if I'm being snarky, but the answers I'm seeing don't make any sense. I'm not invoking physics beyond what the rules call for: That objects have weight and size. That the bag has a hard limit on both isn't physics, it's just the rules for a magic item. People seem to be saying that you can't do something stupid thoughtlessly or by accident, only on purpose. I guess I'll have to write it off to "Different DMs, different approached to the rules". Now, why would water rush in? Because there's gravity outside the bag, and things fall. And while I believe that there's gravity inside the bag as well, even if there wasn't the water would still be pushed by the water outside, where gravity still applies. (There are spells to handle water pressure, and it's mentioned in the Planar Handbook, Manual of the Planes and Stormwrack, so I'm only talking about the physics of the game as already defined in the rules.) Now, my argument about why there's gravity inside the bag: Because the rules set a weight limit on what can be inside. If there wasn't gravity then nothing inside would have a "weight", and the rule would become meaningless. So, in effect, the rules describing the bag that say there's a weight limit to what goes inside are also saying that goes inside still has weight. Is there some argument to say otherwise? (Other than, "Because we're in love with the idea"?) I'm actually serious aboot that question, by the way. It isn't rhetorical or argumemtative (though I could see how someone mighttake it that way). Is there anyplace in the rules that says there's no gravity inside a Bag of Holding? I freely admit that I don't own all the books, and certainly haven't memorized even the ones I have. There might be mention of such a thing that I don't know about. [/QUOTE]
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