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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6220559" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>If there were an actual rule, it seems unlikely the discussion would be this lengthy. The real question is "how do the laws of physics interact with the magic of the bag?" If I accept that water pressure applies, I reasonably have to accept that holding the bag upside down allows the air to be trapped inside so I can use it as a breathing apparatus. But then:</p><p></p><p>- why does the air in every size bag run out at the same time? </p><p></p><p>- and why does air pressure not affect the quantity of air in the bag, changing the weight it holds before I add objects to it? </p><p></p><p>- If we make the bag Invisible, can someone using it as a diving bell see out of it, or does having one's head in another dimension prevent this? </p><p></p><p>- If I let go, does the bag fall through the water (given its weight) or rise to the surface (thanks to all that air inside)? I have to say the former for that one.</p><p></p><p>- If it is falling, does it tend to orient upwards, downwards or sideways? Does this impact the ease with which it is held over my head?</p><p></p><p>Let's add a less related issue - if I have an object part way through the aperture, and someone casts Dispel Magic on the bag, what happens to the object? Is it forced out of the bag? Is it sucked in and trapped? Is it jammed there for the 1d4 rounds during which the aperture does not function? Or is it neatly severed? The manner in which I interpret the functioning of the magic aperture probably should impact my interpretation of the flow of water past it. </p><p></p><p>If it severs the item, what a great way to destroy evil items (or good items if you are so inclined). Go to Mordor? Why? Just hold the ring half in this Bag with these tongs while I cast Dispel Magic! Everyone has a Haversack? Targeted Dispel as you reach for that item = "Your new nickname is Lefty" *. If it doesn't, what prevents it? Objects passing through can't be on just one side, then just the other instantly. If some function of the magic prevents an object being severed in this manner, why can't some function similarly prevent water freely flowing in? </p><p></p><p>* For that matter, if the bag is fully loaded and I reach in to take something out, what impact does the weight of my hand/arm have on the potential overloading of the bag? What if I need two hands to get it out from the very bottom and I'm wearing heavy armored gloves and vambraces?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6220559, member: 6681948"] If there were an actual rule, it seems unlikely the discussion would be this lengthy. The real question is "how do the laws of physics interact with the magic of the bag?" If I accept that water pressure applies, I reasonably have to accept that holding the bag upside down allows the air to be trapped inside so I can use it as a breathing apparatus. But then: - why does the air in every size bag run out at the same time? - and why does air pressure not affect the quantity of air in the bag, changing the weight it holds before I add objects to it? - If we make the bag Invisible, can someone using it as a diving bell see out of it, or does having one's head in another dimension prevent this? - If I let go, does the bag fall through the water (given its weight) or rise to the surface (thanks to all that air inside)? I have to say the former for that one. - If it is falling, does it tend to orient upwards, downwards or sideways? Does this impact the ease with which it is held over my head? Let's add a less related issue - if I have an object part way through the aperture, and someone casts Dispel Magic on the bag, what happens to the object? Is it forced out of the bag? Is it sucked in and trapped? Is it jammed there for the 1d4 rounds during which the aperture does not function? Or is it neatly severed? The manner in which I interpret the functioning of the magic aperture probably should impact my interpretation of the flow of water past it. If it severs the item, what a great way to destroy evil items (or good items if you are so inclined). Go to Mordor? Why? Just hold the ring half in this Bag with these tongs while I cast Dispel Magic! Everyone has a Haversack? Targeted Dispel as you reach for that item = "Your new nickname is Lefty" *. If it doesn't, what prevents it? Objects passing through can't be on just one side, then just the other instantly. If some function of the magic prevents an object being severed in this manner, why can't some function similarly prevent water freely flowing in? * For that matter, if the bag is fully loaded and I reach in to take something out, what impact does the weight of my hand/arm have on the potential overloading of the bag? What if I need two hands to get it out from the very bottom and I'm wearing heavy armored gloves and vambraces? [/QUOTE]
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