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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6225638" data-attributes="member: 6669384">So, to be clear, you're in favor of using physics in the game world?Sorry if I'm misreading, but that sounds like your conclusion.Stepping back a point, I'll argue that we do know exactly how a Bag of Holding works:  The rules say exactly what it does, and how to use it.Speculation of special, unmentioned properties may be entertaining, but ultimately speculation is all it is.My "spandex lining" interpretation?  Pure speculation, an attempt to rationalize why the air supply is fixed, and why even the largest capacity bag can be accessed as a move action, if there isn't too much stuff in it.Arguments over gravity inside?  Pure speculation, also as a way of explaining how someone could access what's inside easily.Special dimensional thresholds to keep water from entering?  100% speculation.  But this speculation isn't being done to explain a documented feature.  It seems to be embraced to explain a feature that the Bag isn't listed as having.So, leaving the physics out of it for the moment, the "why wouldn't it protect itself" argument sounds very weak to me simply because there's nothing to even hint that it can or does protect itself.  In fact, the rules say exactly what we have to look out for because it doesn't protect itself.  You see the difference?  Rationalizing a documented feature is one thing.  Rationalizing a feature into existence is something else, and has nothing to do with physics v magic.  This is poorly defined (i.e. game world) physics v undefined and undocumented magical properties.If you want to include real world physics in the game, then that becomes "well defined fluid dynamics v undefined and undocumented (i.e. made up on the fly) magical properties."In physics v magic, magic should win.  In physics v "there might be something magical involved", physics wins.  Until "might be" somehow changes into "is", physics wins. Otherwise even common sense, gut level physics gets suspended arbitrarily any time someone says, "There might be some magic involved, somehow."  Stuff happens "just because".You argue that having bags burst from air pressure adds nothing to the game?  I'll argue that "just because" adds even less.</blockquote>

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