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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RuminDange" data-source="post: 1283805" data-attributes="member: 5412">Interesting take on it.  However, I have to disagree, but will back my disagreement up with one such restricted item from the DMG.Say you have a druid that wishes to create a Druid Vestment. Now to determine how they got to the price of 10,000gp.  One method that works fairly well and with in the rules is:Taking that you have a spell level of  4 (polymorph) x 10 (caster level) x 2000 = 80000However, the power is usable 1 time per day.  So now you have to follow the following guide.The price now becomes: 80000 / 5 / 1 =  16000.Close but not done yet.  Here is where the discount comes in.  First you have to have the wild shape ability to use the vestment.  Consider that a skill/power for a 10% discount.  Then consider the fact that you have to be a druid to have the wild shape ability. That limits the item to a single class for an additional 30% discount.  Add the discount together and determine the final cost.16000 * .6 (for 60% after 40% discount)  = 9600 gp.  close to 10000 (actually need to multiply by .625 to get right on, but this could be the difference needed for a masterwork mantle garment being made.Now if a druid is going to make this item as per the DMG, which cost do they use?  16,000gp or 10,000gp?  Using the discounts for item creation as well as sale value or character value is what they are for, otherwise why have them at all.  There may be other ways to use the item creation guide to come to a cost, but either way you go about it, you are going to have to use the discounts to get it back down close to 10000gp.  Another way to do it is calling the effect a Command Word and that would get closer to 10000, since the cost would calculated as such: 4*10*1800 = 72000. Then usable once per day would drop the price to: 72000 / 5 / 1 = 14400.  Then applying only the 30% discount for being restricted to druids due to only usable by one that has wild shape ability would drop the price to: 14400 * .7 = 10080 gp.Either way you go, it's enough justification to me to indicate that item creation discounts are warranted and used to figure the cost of item being created not just the value for sale.RD</blockquote>

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