Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Enchanted Trinkets Complete--a hardcover book containing over 500 magic items for your D&D games!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
items that allow you to spend healing surges
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 4711406" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>I should probably add that I thought about making the item power grant you the use of the Second Wind action.</p><p></p><p>However, that would make the item a decidedly monster-only item, which I find less fun and probably in violation of 4E design principles.</p><p></p><p>Even if the potion allows you to take the SW as a free action (meaning you're spending a total of one minor action to drink the potion and possibly another to pick it out of your belt or backpack if your GM runs with that interpretation) it's still a much more valuable item to monsters than player characters (especially Dwarfs).</p><p></p><p>So that's why I'm keeping to the Healing Surge thing. That, and that I don't need to give my Solos another +2 to defenses...</p><p></p><p>Even if a level 10 Solo only has one Healing Surge a day, the prospect of these items ever finding their way into the hands of the adventurers forces me to add a specific "once a day" restriction to the item. </p><p></p><p>Still the item might be over-powered. How valuable is getting essentially a second Second Wind each day?</p><p></p><p>Pretty valuable, I grant you that. But is it overpowering? </p><p></p><p>I'm hoping Paragon and Epic adventurers have several ways to spend surges in combat, and thus that this item won't be a must-have item there. </p><p></p><p>For Heroic PCs, of course the item is very valuable. But there the cost of 5,000 isn't insignificant, I hope. While still not so high that the urge to simply sell it (for 1,000 gold) becomes irresistible.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, your input would be most appreciated! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 4711406, member: 12731"] I should probably add that I thought about making the item power grant you the use of the Second Wind action. However, that would make the item a decidedly monster-only item, which I find less fun and probably in violation of 4E design principles. Even if the potion allows you to take the SW as a free action (meaning you're spending a total of one minor action to drink the potion and possibly another to pick it out of your belt or backpack if your GM runs with that interpretation) it's still a much more valuable item to monsters than player characters (especially Dwarfs). So that's why I'm keeping to the Healing Surge thing. That, and that I don't need to give my Solos another +2 to defenses... Even if a level 10 Solo only has one Healing Surge a day, the prospect of these items ever finding their way into the hands of the adventurers forces me to add a specific "once a day" restriction to the item. Still the item might be over-powered. How valuable is getting essentially a second Second Wind each day? Pretty valuable, I grant you that. But is it overpowering? I'm hoping Paragon and Epic adventurers have several ways to spend surges in combat, and thus that this item won't be a must-have item there. For Heroic PCs, of course the item is very valuable. But there the cost of 5,000 isn't insignificant, I hope. While still not so high that the urge to simply sell it (for 1,000 gold) becomes irresistible. Again, your input would be most appreciated! :) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
items that allow you to spend healing surges
Top