Items that give bonus to Leadership score?

[blargney the second]

What items are there that give a specific bonus to the Leadership score? I'm trying to figure out an approximate cost scale (ie bonus squared times X) so I can put an appropriate bonus on an item for a PC in the game I'm DMing.

Thanks for the help!
-blarg

 

[Folly]

The only item I can think of that gives a bonus to leadership would be a cloak of charisma. Just as a note, this would be an extraordinarily difficult item to price, since while it is highly specialized it has a huge impact when it is useful.

 

[blargney the second]

Someone pointed out the admiral's bicorne from Stormwrack to me - it gives (amongst other things) a +5 bonus to your leadership score.

It looks pretty difficult to extract the value of the leadership bonus from all the other stuff...

 

[Nifft]

Leadership is arguably the best feat in the game.

I'd probably allow a wish to grant a +1 Inherent bonus to Leadership (just the one), but not an item.

I still wonder what happens when the Leader takes off his Cloak of Charisma +6. Does his Cohort suddenly lose 3 levels, or does the Cohort say, "I can't work for someone that ugly!" and wander off until you put it back on?

Cheers, -- N

 

[blargney the second]

Yeah, it definitely is a strong feat. However, this is for my group of three PCs with no spellcaster. I don't want to outright give them Leadership, but I'm willing to give them incentive to take it.

One of the PCs is a de-landed baron with an ancestral bastard sword. I want to put +1 leadership on his weapon of legacy. My hope in this thread is to determine a ballpark market value for +1 (or maybe +2) to leadership score.

 

[Ruslanchik]

Why not just treat it as a +1 bonus to an ability score.

Of course it takes +2 to Charisma to raise your Leadership score by 1. However, +1 to Leadership isn't nearly as useful as +2 to Charisma. If give the +1 to Leadership item the same price as a +1 to Charisma item, the cost would be fair, I think.

There is, of course, no support in any book for what I just said.

 

[Nifft]

Now that I think about it, it seems there's a nice handwave in the rules for just this sort of occasion: Special Power. If the Leader has a reputation for "special power", which is not further defined, then he gets a +2 bonus to his Leadership score.

Ownership of an item that grants "special power" could be priced at +20 kgp, by my estimate, while a way of gaining inherent "special power" (which couldn't be revoked) would cost more like 50 kgp.

Cheers, -- N

 

[blargney the second]

Nifft, that's perfect! Thank you.
-blarg

 

[irdeggman]

Remember the level limit though.

Simply upping the leadership score will not allow a cohort to be less that 2 levels lower than the leader.

 

[Folly]

I think Nifft is approaching this from the correct perspective, but I think the price is too high. Given that a +4 cloak of charisma is 16k, I would think that the item should be at most that amount as well.