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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5027114" data-attributes="member: 51942">It certainly isn't particularly obvious or intuitive, this distinction on properties, and as you say, it may open a can of worms.The only thing I have to add is that this isn't really a case of custserve or the FAQ over-liberally applying rules - there just aren't any rules on when properties apply.&nbsp; Stuff like shedding light doesn't sound like it requires you to be wielding it, particularly if it goes on to say that it sheds light until sheathed and covered.&nbsp; The PHB (a more appropriate rules-source) simply says properties are constantly active (or active under certain conditions).&nbsp; For slotted items, this is pretty clearcut; you can have only one item of each slot active at a time (and two rings), but weapons + implements are unslotted.&nbsp; Holy symbols can even be worn, so you could conceivably have quite the large number of them.So, if you're holding an unslotted item with a property, but you can't use the hand you're holding the item with to attack, well, what happens to the properties?It's just not well defined, RAW or RAI, as far as I can tell.&nbsp; The AV isn't the spot for new general rules, and it only mentions weapons.&nbsp; The FAQ is also not the sport for new general rules, but it is the spot for general clarifications, and it mentions implements.&nbsp; This isn't a great situation.&nbsp; Well, that's just all there is, AFAIK.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5027114, member: 51942"] It certainly isn't particularly obvious or intuitive, this distinction on properties, and as you say, it may open a can of worms. The only thing I have to add is that this isn't really a case of custserve or the FAQ over-liberally applying rules - there just aren't [I]any[/I] rules on when properties apply. Stuff like shedding light doesn't [I]sound[/I] like it requires you to be wielding it, particularly if it goes on to say that it sheds light until sheathed and covered. The PHB (a more appropriate rules-source) simply says properties are constantly active (or active under certain conditions). For slotted items, this is pretty clearcut; you can have only one item of each slot active at a time (and two rings), but weapons + implements are unslotted. Holy symbols can even be worn, so you could conceivably have quite the large number of them. So, if you're holding an unslotted item with a property, but you can't use the hand you're holding the item with to attack, well, what happens to the properties? It's just not well defined, RAW or RAI, as far as I can tell. The AV isn't the spot for new general rules, and it only mentions weapons. The FAQ is also not the sport for new general rules, but it is the spot for general clarifications, and it mentions implements. This isn't a great situation. Well, that's just all there is, AFAIK. [/QUOTE]

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