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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 1148794" data-attributes="member: 284">If the fighter is indeed &quot;completely surprised&quot;, it would have to be outside of combat.&nbsp; You can't be suprised once combat is started. &nbsp;It depends on whether the invisible attack initiates the combat or takes place during an existing combat situation. &nbsp;If the rogue sneaks up on the fighter (and there is no combat currently taking place) and attacks him while invisible, then the sneak attack would take place during the suprise round, and then you roll initiative to see if the fighter reacts fast enough to prevent further sneak attacks.&nbsp; If the rogue beats him on initiative, the rogue will get a full round of sneak attacks while the fighter us flat-footed.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;If the rogue does this during combat, then the they have their guard up, and only the invisible attack will qualify for sneak attack damage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 1148794, member: 284"] If the fighter is indeed "completely surprised", it would have to be outside of combat. You can't be suprised once combat is started. It depends on whether the invisible attack initiates the combat or takes place during an existing combat situation. If the rogue sneaks up on the fighter (and there is no combat currently taking place) and attacks him while invisible, then the sneak attack would take place during the suprise round, and then you roll initiative to see if the fighter reacts fast enough to prevent further sneak attacks. If the rogue beats him on initiative, the rogue will get a full round of sneak attacks while the fighter us flat-footed. If the rogue does this during combat, then the they have their guard up, and only the invisible attack will qualify for sneak attack damage. [/QUOTE]

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