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<blockquote data-quote="uzagi_akimbo" data-source="post: 1632135" data-attributes="member: 15945">If you want damage from a whip and avoid the pesky AOO, take a look at the lasher prestige class in S&amp;F. These guys can get really scary if fitted out with&nbsp; dagger-whips. Especially if they use two weapon fighting (and gets access to Crack of Fate at 3rd level ) - Thankfully they closed the Rapid Shot rules-loophole when they made the whip a melee weapon.Had one IMC recently, who became a major problem to NPC deploy due to his ability to threaten huge areas of the battlefieldwitha full attack since he does not really need to move much. He wickedly sorted out his group though, when he fell under a Confusion spell, ending his career for good.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" />&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" />&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" /> But - unless you opt for the Lasher class, there is hardly a way around the AOO problem and the inability to do lethal damage with a normal whip, or even to deal with most armour.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="uzagi_akimbo, post: 1632135, member: 15945"] If you want damage from a whip and avoid the pesky AOO, take a look at the lasher prestige class in S&F. These guys can get really scary if fitted out with dagger-whips. Especially if they use two weapon fighting (and gets access to Crack of Fate at 3rd level ) - Thankfully they closed the Rapid Shot rules-loophole when they made the whip a melee weapon. Had one IMC recently, who became a major problem to NPC deploy due to his ability to threaten huge areas of the battlefieldwitha full attack since he does not really need to move much. He wickedly sorted out his group though, when he fell under a Confusion spell, ending his career for good. :] :] :] But - unless you opt for the Lasher class, there is hardly a way around the AOO problem and the inability to do lethal damage with a normal whip, or even to deal with most armour. [/QUOTE]

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