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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6295002" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>All of this applies to spells that appear <em>only</em> on the Bard (or Paladin, or Ranger) spell list. A spell like <em>confusion</em>, which is both a Bard 3 and Wizard/Sorcerer 4 spell, isn't affected. (One example of such a spell is <em>lullaby</em>, which is a Bard 0 spell - no other class can cast it.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What this means is that a character with the Prestige Bard class adds any of those <em>unique</em> Bard spells to his existing spell-list at the same level. So, a Wizard 1/Rogue 4/PrBard 1 would treat <em>lullaby</em> as a Wizard 0 spell - he could prepare it in any of his 0-level spell slots.</p><p></p><p>However, again <em>confusion</em> is not affected - this would still be a 4th level spell for the character. (And, perhaps importantly, that character couldn't cast <em>cure light wounds</em> at all, since that's not a Bard-unique spell either.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is an odd one. Presumably "found in other books" means those Bard-unique spells that appear in the "Spell Compendium", "Complete Adventurer", and basically anything other than the PHB. Given that allowing those books at all (or not) is pretty much the prerogative of the DM anyway, there's no change here - he might make you research or find them individually, or he might give you a free choice.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>None of the above. A spell that is unique to the Bard (so <em>lullaby</em>, but not <em>confusion</em> or <em>cure light wounds</em>) is treated as a Wizard spell <em>of the same spell level</em> for the Prestige Bard. So, such a character treats <em>lullaby</em> as a Wizard 0 spell.</p><p></p><p>In the specific case of a Beguiler who becomes a Prestige Bard, the same applies. However, the addition of all these new spellcasters makes finding Bard-unique spells a major hassle (since only the PHB classes are listed for all spells). Here, your DM will need to make a ruling, but my recommendation would be to ignore all the class spell-lists except the Beguiler, and instead go directly to the spell listing. If that listing gives a Bard level but no other (again, see <em>lullaby</em>, then treat it as a Beguiler spell of the same level). The one exception I would make to this is if the spell exists on the <em>Beguiler</em> list at a different level, in which case the character has to stick to that Beguiler level.</p><p></p><p>(I hope that last makes sense - unfortunately it's pretty convoluted, but I didn't see a way to make it any simpler.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 6295002, member: 22424"] All of this applies to spells that appear [i]only[/i] on the Bard (or Paladin, or Ranger) spell list. A spell like [i]confusion[/i], which is both a Bard 3 and Wizard/Sorcerer 4 spell, isn't affected. (One example of such a spell is [i]lullaby[/i], which is a Bard 0 spell - no other class can cast it.) What this means is that a character with the Prestige Bard class adds any of those [i]unique[/i] Bard spells to his existing spell-list at the same level. So, a Wizard 1/Rogue 4/PrBard 1 would treat [i]lullaby[/i] as a Wizard 0 spell - he could prepare it in any of his 0-level spell slots. However, again [i]confusion[/i] is not affected - this would still be a 4th level spell for the character. (And, perhaps importantly, that character couldn't cast [i]cure light wounds[/i] at all, since that's not a Bard-unique spell either.) This is an odd one. Presumably "found in other books" means those Bard-unique spells that appear in the "Spell Compendium", "Complete Adventurer", and basically anything other than the PHB. Given that allowing those books at all (or not) is pretty much the prerogative of the DM anyway, there's no change here - he might make you research or find them individually, or he might give you a free choice. None of the above. A spell that is unique to the Bard (so [i]lullaby[/i], but not [i]confusion[/i] or [i]cure light wounds[/i]) is treated as a Wizard spell [i]of the same spell level[/i] for the Prestige Bard. So, such a character treats [i]lullaby[/i] as a Wizard 0 spell. In the specific case of a Beguiler who becomes a Prestige Bard, the same applies. However, the addition of all these new spellcasters makes finding Bard-unique spells a major hassle (since only the PHB classes are listed for all spells). Here, your DM will need to make a ruling, but my recommendation would be to ignore all the class spell-lists except the Beguiler, and instead go directly to the spell listing. If that listing gives a Bard level but no other (again, see [i]lullaby[/i], then treat it as a Beguiler spell of the same level). The one exception I would make to this is if the spell exists on the [i]Beguiler[/i] list at a different level, in which case the character has to stick to that Beguiler level. (I hope that last makes sense - unfortunately it's pretty convoluted, but I didn't see a way to make it any simpler.) [/QUOTE]
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