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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 7688602" data-attributes="member: 7635">You're missing the subtlety there...The Dark Powers (DM) can release anyone they want, anytime they want.For Dark Lords, its happened twice (one willingly, with Soth, and once unwillingly in Vecna). For non-Dark Lords, its happened infrequently. Usually, its done when the Dark Powers (DM) wishes to let them go as a reward for furthering their own ends (the DM is ready to move on). Escaping almost always requires some sort of greater quest (WBBM, FoG, HoS) or Major Artifact (Baba Yaga's Hut, The Outer Planar Catalogue) and even these have a great risk of failure. What DOESN'T work is normal &quot;magical&quot; means like plane shift or teleport; the PCs cannot decide when they want to leave, only the Dark Powers (DM) decides that. As long as the AP has such an &quot;escape clause&quot; for completing it, then you're not breaking any rules of the setting. The big thing would be not allowing them to leave on their own power (or, if they go evil).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 7688602, member: 7635"] You're missing the subtlety there... The Dark Powers (DM) can release anyone they want, anytime they want. For Dark Lords, its happened twice (one willingly, with Soth, and once unwillingly in Vecna). For non-Dark Lords, its happened infrequently. Usually, its done when the Dark Powers (DM) wishes to let them go as a reward for furthering their own ends (the DM is ready to move on). Escaping almost always requires some sort of greater quest (WBBM, FoG, HoS) or Major Artifact (Baba Yaga's Hut, The Outer Planar Catalogue) and even these have a great risk of failure. What DOESN'T work is normal "magical" means like plane shift or teleport; the PCs cannot decide when they want to leave, only the Dark Powers (DM) decides that. As long as the AP has such an "escape clause" for completing it, then you're not breaking any rules of the setting. The big thing would be not allowing them to leave on their own power (or, if they go evil). [/QUOTE]

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