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<blockquote data-quote="BluSponge" data-source="post: 4899095" data-attributes="member: 916">As a DS fan from way back, I'm somewhat excited about this news.&nbsp; If anything could get me to swallow my pride and forsake my grognard attitudes towards 4e, it would be Dark Sun.&nbsp; But reading the various posts here and elsewhere has me concerned about one important detail:While it's certainly too early to tell, I'm getting the disturbing impression that in order to run a DS game, I'll not only need PHB II (if 2e &quot;clerics&quot; become 4e &quot;shamans&quot;) and certainly PHB III (for psionics, and/or if 2e &quot;bards&quot; become 4e &quot;assassins&quot;).&nbsp; My basis for this comes from lots of talk about the 1 character class feature in the forthcoming DS PG.&nbsp; Now, I'm not ready to get up in arms about all this (the book is a year away and we know nothing about it other than its coming and adheres to the original boxed set), but it does worry me for a number of obvious reasons.Have I missed anything in the discussion that contradicts this?edit: I know you needed the Psionics handbook to play DS back in second edition, so I'm alright with a limited additional investment, but I'm worried 4e is going to stack 2, 3, or even more books on top of that just to get started.Tom</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BluSponge, post: 4899095, member: 916"] As a DS fan from way back, I'm somewhat excited about this news. If anything could get me to swallow my pride and forsake my grognard attitudes towards 4e, it would be Dark Sun. But reading the various posts here and elsewhere has me concerned about one important detail: While it's certainly too early to tell, I'm getting the disturbing impression that in order to run a DS game, I'll not only need PHB II (if 2e "clerics" become 4e "shamans") and certainly PHB III (for psionics, and/or if 2e "bards" become 4e "assassins"). My basis for this comes from lots of talk about the 1 character class feature in the forthcoming DS PG. Now, I'm not ready to get up in arms about all this (the book is a year away and we know nothing about it other than its coming and adheres to the original boxed set), but it does worry me for a number of obvious reasons. Have I missed anything in the discussion that contradicts this? edit: I know you needed the Psionics handbook to play DS back in second edition, so I'm alright with a limited additional investment, but I'm worried 4e is going to stack 2, 3, or even more books on top of that just to get started. Tom [/QUOTE]

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