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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 4786962" data-attributes="member: 3400">Argument is a good thing when people lay out their positions, make their explanations, think about each other's view points, etc.But too many arguments around here turn into bickering and posts start talking past each other rather than too each other. I think it's a symptom of getting too entrenched in your argument and thinking of your responses than actually understanding what the other poster is saying. And quite frankly, there's little that's as annoying on a message board than reading a response in an argument that doesn't indicate that they really understood or even tried to understand your last post.I'd really like to see more of us actually restating the position of the post they're responding to so that they can confirm they got the point. Or asking for clarification. Something like:Poster A: &quot;I don't like 4e. It's too video-gamey...&quot;Poster B: &quot;It doesn't feel like any video games I've played, what do you mean...&quot; (seeking clarification)Poster A: &quot;You blow some powers that won't recharge in the course of the encounter and then hammer the at will attack button until the enemy goes down... like WoW.&quot;Poster B: &quot;I can see where, in that light, it parallels WoW, (making it at least appear you get the point) but a lot of games, including older editions aren't that different, like hitting repeatedly with a sword in nearly any edition. Plus they draw from the same source of tabletop gaming, it's no wonder there's some convergence...&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="billd91, post: 4786962, member: 3400"] Argument is a good thing when people lay out their positions, make their explanations, think about each other's view points, etc. But too many arguments around here turn into bickering and posts start talking [b]past[/b] each other rather than too each other. I think it's a symptom of getting too entrenched in your argument and thinking of your responses than actually understanding what the other poster is saying. And quite frankly, there's little that's as annoying on a message board than reading a response in an argument that doesn't indicate that they really understood or even tried to understand your last post. I'd really like to see more of us actually restating the position of the post they're responding to so that they can confirm they got the point. Or asking for clarification. Something like: Poster A: "I don't like 4e. It's too video-gamey..." Poster B: "It doesn't feel like any video games I've played, what do you mean..." [i](seeking clarification)[/i] Poster A: "You blow some powers that won't recharge in the course of the encounter and then hammer the at will attack button until the enemy goes down... like WoW." Poster B: "I can see where, in that light, it parallels WoW, [i](making it at least appear you get the point)[/i] but a lot of games, including older editions aren't that different, like hitting repeatedly with a sword in nearly any edition. Plus they draw from the same source of tabletop gaming, it's no wonder there's some convergence..." [/QUOTE]

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