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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kaffis" data-source="post: 4220613" data-attributes="member: 10305">Actually, I suspect there will be a decent chunk devoted to it. It's called death and dying. If you don't achieve the things you're destined for, it's because you died along the way...What I do hope we get to see, is advice and tips for smoothly changing destinies, or the tack taken to achieve them, along the way. If your character is destined to save the world from the BBEG, and your group just happens to not defeat him, but rather, beat a retreat that keeps them alive; perhaps your destiny was misinterpreted, and rather than preventing him from ravaging the world wholesale, you instead defeat him and heal the wounds he caused.In other words, I agree, I doubt there will be a "game over, you lose." mechanic. I don't want epic destinies to become some kind of unfun "well, that 27 levels was a waste, and now I've failed my epic destiny and can't go on without one" deal. No matter how fast levelling is, 30 levels is a huge time commitment, and if you tell a player that they don't get to win the last 2 years' worth of game, but it's okay, we can start over and try again, better luck next time and all that... you're going to have one less player when you start over. I'd much rather see "failure" turn into "victory in an unexpected way" or "achieving a different win condition."I don't think anybody's going to force you to sit down with your DM and choose if you don't want to. It seems to me that there are two simple, but equally fun approaches to epic destinies. You can do much as you've always done, and let the DM surprise you with your eventual destiny -- just go along for the ride in the paragon tier, and let the story take you as it may, setting you up for an epic destiny as the story unfolds. Or you can make conscious choices in the paragon tier, as the character, and your choices and character's goals will set you on the path for a particular destiny, or at least a particular type of destiny. They're as organic and unexpected as you and the DM choose to allow them to be.I'd be shocked if we saw less than a session per level. That's never good design.I'd be surprised if we saw more than an average of 3 or 4 sessions per level.So for a weekly game, that's 2/3s to 2 or 2.5 years 1-30. I figure shooting for 1.5 years or so will probably be the marketability sweet spot.</blockquote>

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