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<blockquote data-quote="STARP_JVP" data-source="post: 2483188" data-attributes="member: 31580">What's the dumbest argument with a PC or DM you've had regarding something scientific, ie. what a player can and can't do according to the laws of physics/time/causality, whatever.&nbsp;For me, it is STARP's infamous &quot;Napalm&quot; argument.&nbsp;We will call the DM 'Mac'. I am playing, as is my friend, who we'll call &quot;Napalm Ned&quot;. Napalm Ned was in possession of some soap and some lamp oil. Mac put us up against a lot of nasty, icky things (I forget what). Running low on ammo and spells, Napalm Ned had a brilliant idea. He wanted to use his lamp oil and soap to create napalm.&nbsp;Now, the argument was stupid on three fronts. First, it was stupid because you can't make napalm with soap and lamp oil. Secondly, there's a perfectly good substitute for napalm in the form of alchemists' fire (called Greek Fire Oil in them days). And thirdly, Napalm Ned's PC wouldn't have known that Napalm existed, what with it being the middle ages and all. Napalm Ned was adamant he should be able to do it - he had the gear and he had 18 Intelligence, thereby making him smart enough to do it. Never mind explaining how he knew of the existence of Napalm. Never mind that his plan was stupid. For about an hour, Mac and Napalm Ned argued back and forth about this plan, with me supporting Mac all the way. It was going nowhere. Finally, Mac said &quot;OK, so you want to make Napalm?&quot;&quot;Yes,&quot; said Napalm Ned.&quot;Well you can't. Live with it.&quot;To this day, Napalm Ned believes he was hard done by.&nbsp;I dunno, some people...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="STARP_JVP, post: 2483188, member: 31580"] What's the dumbest argument with a PC or DM you've had regarding something scientific, ie. what a player can and can't do according to the laws of physics/time/causality, whatever. For me, it is STARP's infamous "Napalm" argument. We will call the DM 'Mac'. I am playing, as is my friend, who we'll call "Napalm Ned". Napalm Ned was in possession of some soap and some lamp oil. Mac put us up against a lot of nasty, icky things (I forget what). Running low on ammo and spells, Napalm Ned had a brilliant idea. He wanted to use his lamp oil and soap to create napalm. Now, the argument was stupid on three fronts. First, it was stupid because you [i]can't [/i]make napalm with soap and lamp oil. Secondly, there's a perfectly good substitute for napalm in the form of alchemists' fire (called Greek Fire Oil in them days). And thirdly, Napalm Ned's PC wouldn't have known that Napalm existed, what with it being the middle ages and all. Napalm Ned was adamant he should be able to do it - he had the gear and he had 18 Intelligence, thereby making him smart enough to do it. Never mind explaining how he knew of the existence of Napalm. Never mind that his plan was stupid. For about an hour, Mac and Napalm Ned argued back and forth about this plan, with me supporting Mac all the way. It was going nowhere. Finally, Mac said "OK, so you want to make Napalm?" "Yes," said Napalm Ned. "Well you can't. Live with it." To this day, Napalm Ned believes he was hard done by. I dunno, some people... [/QUOTE]

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