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<blockquote data-quote="Prince Atom" data-source="post: 2484499" data-attributes="member: 6046">I once had a 2ndEd game in which the player of the thief (Hah! Yes! A thief! Not a namby &quot;Rogue!&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> ) wanted to know if he could carry around some soap.Okay, I said. Usually I take my PCs' cleanliness for granted, but if he wanted to buy soap, well, it was on the equipment list.All was fine until the party needed to get through a locked door. The thief turned to me and said, &quot;I take out my soap, stick it into the lock to make a mold of the key, pull it back out, and then make a copy of the key out of wood with my trusty dagger.&quot;&quot;No,&quot; I said. &quot;You've got lockpicks; roll against your Open Locks skill.&quot;This went on for a while. I firmly believe that any kind of soap will not hold up to that kind of treatment. You could cram it into a lock, sure, but when you pulled it out of the lock it would all crumble and most of it would remain inside.I think I had as much frustration as I had with him because he was constantly looking for ways around the rules; I think he felt that if he used the rules and rolled the dice, he would fail.In hindsight, I should have let him do it that way, but given him a bonus to Open Locks and still made him roll.TWK</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Prince Atom, post: 2484499, member: 6046"] I once had a 2ndEd game in which the player of the thief (Hah! Yes! A thief! Not a namby "Rogue!" :p ) wanted to know if he could carry around some soap. Okay, I said. Usually I take my PCs' cleanliness for granted, but if he wanted to buy soap, well, it was on the equipment list. All was fine until the party needed to get through a locked door. The thief turned to me and said, "I take out my soap, stick it into the lock to make a mold of the key, pull it back out, and then make a copy of the key out of wood with my trusty dagger." "No," I said. "You've got lockpicks; roll against your Open Locks skill." This went on for a while. I firmly believe that any kind of soap will not hold up to that kind of treatment. You could cram it into a lock, sure, but when you pulled it out of the lock it would all crumble and most of it would remain inside. I think I had as much frustration as I had with him because he was constantly looking for ways around the rules; I think he felt that if he used the rules and rolled the dice, he would fail. In hindsight, I should have let him do it that way, but given him a bonus to Open Locks and still made him roll. TWK [/QUOTE]

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