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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 2486633" data-attributes="member: 3854">Making &quot;napalm&quot; without an Alchemy roll or opening a door using a bar of soap without an Open Locks roll is very similar to letting a character/Player talk someone into aiding him without a Diplomacy roll or making someone surrender without an Intimidate roll. And there's apparently many DMs who allow Players to make their social &quot;checks&quot; without rolling, and in fact beleive that is the best way to do it.Way back in the 80s, I had a Player occassionally play with us (maybe 3 times) who always used his &quot;genius&quot; to do things in game. He was in his late 20's among us teenagers, and had army survival training. He knew how to make traps, purify water and food, etc. All his characters used this knowledge, and it made me mad -- as a young and new DM, I didn't know how to tell him no when he described it in detail (and there were no skills in early D&amp;D to pass it onto). I once commented that he'd probably try to build an atomic bomb. He said, no, he couldn't build one in D&amp;D because...and he described the proceedure and how D&amp;D tech couldn't create the necessary materials.In the 90s, I had a Player in my game who complained about a former DM who was a horse riding expert. He required the Players to explain exactly how they saddled their horses, mounted up, and rode. He ruled riding in minute details, having PCs fall off because of misadjusted saddles, horses get injured because of mishandling, etc. Insanity.Quasqueton</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 2486633, member: 3854"] Making "napalm" without an Alchemy roll or opening a door using a bar of soap without an Open Locks roll is very similar to letting a character/Player talk someone into aiding him without a Diplomacy roll or making someone surrender without an Intimidate roll. And there's apparently many DMs who allow Players to make their social "checks" without rolling, and in fact beleive that is the best way to do it. Way back in the 80s, I had a Player occassionally play with us (maybe 3 times) who always used his "genius" to do things in game. He was in his late 20's among us teenagers, and had army survival training. He knew how to make traps, purify water and food, etc. All his characters used this knowledge, and it made me mad -- as a young and new DM, I didn't know how to tell him no when he described it in detail (and there were no skills in early D&D to pass it onto). I once commented that he'd probably try to build an atomic bomb. He said, no, he couldn't build one in D&D because...and he described the proceedure and how D&D tech couldn't create the necessary materials. In the 90s, I had a Player in my game who complained about a former DM who was a horse riding expert. He required the Players to explain exactly how they saddled their horses, mounted up, and rode. He ruled riding in minute details, having PCs fall off because of misadjusted saddles, horses get injured because of mishandling, etc. Insanity. Quasqueton [/QUOTE]

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