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<blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8267383" data-attributes="member: 86653"><p>I submit to you that getting instant feedback, i.e. getting caught, isn't the problem. The act of reading the notes/module is. If the player read your notes but you didn't know about it, it would still be a problem. You'd just be unaware of it. If the player read your notes away from the table, between adventures, it would still be a problem. It's not the act of getting caught that makes it bad. It's the act itself that's bad.</p><p></p><p>Again, I submit to you that there's no context where a player reading the module isn't at least weird if not known to be against etiquette. The only reason to do so is to spoil the surprise and to exploit that knowledge to "win" the situation. Anyone who doesn't recognize that as cheating, as a fundamental violation of gaming etiquette, is not someone I'd ever want at my table.</p><p></p><p>I don't have to explain to (most) players that cheating on their dice rolls is verboten. I also don't have to explain to (most) players that dropping a steaming deuce on the gaming table is verboten. I don't have time to explain basic behavior to adults. If a gamer honestly expects me to hold an ethics lecture before playing a game just in case, I'll pass, thanks. They can play with someone else. Someone that obsessed with being a rules lawyer ("Well, you didn't say I couldn't use loaded dice...") isn't someone that'd I'd want to play with.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="overgeeked, post: 8267383, member: 86653"] I submit to you that getting instant feedback, i.e. getting caught, isn't the problem. The act of reading the notes/module is. If the player read your notes but you didn't know about it, it would still be a problem. You'd just be unaware of it. If the player read your notes away from the table, between adventures, it would still be a problem. It's not the act of getting caught that makes it bad. It's the act itself that's bad. Again, I submit to you that there's no context where a player reading the module isn't at least weird if not known to be against etiquette. The only reason to do so is to spoil the surprise and to exploit that knowledge to "win" the situation. Anyone who doesn't recognize that as cheating, as a fundamental violation of gaming etiquette, is not someone I'd ever want at my table. I don't have to explain to (most) players that cheating on their dice rolls is verboten. I also don't have to explain to (most) players that dropping a steaming deuce on the gaming table is verboten. I don't have time to explain basic behavior to adults. If a gamer honestly expects me to hold an ethics lecture before playing a game just in case, I'll pass, thanks. They can play with someone else. Someone that obsessed with being a rules lawyer ("Well, you didn't say I couldn't use loaded dice...") isn't someone that'd I'd want to play with. [/QUOTE]
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