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<blockquote data-quote="AverageCitizen" data-source="post: 6689191" data-attributes="member: 57845">Maybe I watch too many movies or read too much Wheel of Time, but I like the swordmaster archetype who uses a medium-sized blade in both hands. However, it seems under-served in 5e, since versatile weapons are a whole step down from two-handed weapons in terms of damage. I know the point is that they are, well, versatile, but I still wish I could have a duelist-style blademaster with a longsword. While I am day-dreaming, the swashbuckling archetype seems under-served as well, since no one except rouges should use a rapier in melee without a shield (and even then as a fencing rogue I realized might as well just stick to sniping with my crossbow). Yes, I know that historically duelists used bucklers, and I know that is where the term came from, but I want my Errol Flynn, damnit, and I don't want to leave a bunch of utility or damage on the table to do it. Besides, real duelists often used daggers in the off-hand as well, and we don't get to do that, so the historical accuracy argument won't fly with me. I almost wish the Duelist feat didn't work if you used a shield, that would solve both problems. But, sometimes I think about making a feat or a combat style to suit my shield-less fantasy.What do you guys think? Am I missing something? Do you have any ideas or house-rules? Would anyone care to chime in about how they don't use feats or multi-classing, since it seems like we can't let a thread go without a roll-call on that? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="AverageCitizen, post: 6689191, member: 57845"] Maybe I watch too many movies or read too much Wheel of Time, but I like the swordmaster archetype who uses a medium-sized blade in both hands. However, it seems under-served in 5e, since versatile weapons are a whole step down from two-handed weapons in terms of damage. I know the point is that they are, well, versatile, but I still wish I could have a duelist-style blademaster with a longsword. While I am day-dreaming, the swashbuckling archetype seems under-served as well, since no one except rouges should use a rapier in melee without a shield (and even then as a fencing rogue I realized might as well just stick to sniping with my crossbow). Yes, I know that historically duelists used bucklers, and I know that is where the term came from, but I want my Errol Flynn, damnit, and I don't want to leave a bunch of utility or damage on the table to do it. Besides, real duelists often used daggers in the off-hand as well, and we don't get to do that, so the historical accuracy argument won't fly with me. I almost wish the Duelist feat didn't work if you used a shield, that would solve both problems. But, sometimes I think about making a feat or a combat style to suit my shield-less fantasy. What do you guys think? Am I missing something? Do you have any ideas or house-rules? Would anyone care to chime in about how they don't use feats or multi-classing, since it seems like we can't let a thread go without a roll-call on that? :p [/QUOTE]

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