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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 2570489" data-attributes="member: 22424">I'm a VP/WP hater too, for precisely the reasons outlined by the first poster. The one and only Star Wars d20 game I ran hit exactly this problem - the climactic fight against the enemy Jedi ended in round one when the PC Jedi rolled a crit with his first attack, and killed him outright.Now, in a campaign, this wouldn't be too bad - one NPC dead, a billion more to use. However, the reverse problem is a real killer. If the dark Jedi rolls a crit with his first attack, and kills the PC Jedi whom the player has been lovingly developing for months of real time, what do you do?If you fudge the roll, you destroy the value of the system in the first place, since suddenly the lethality is not there. If you introduce house rules to wish away this problem, you're not using the system as written anyway, and you're reducing the effectiveness of the rule at performing its intended purpose. (Not that I wish to imply that "not using the system as written" is a bad thing. However, it rather negates any argument you put forward suggesting that the system isn't badly-designed.) If you enforce the rule as written, you wreck the players enjoyment of the session, and possibly the campaign, and you encourage players to view their characters as nothing more than disposable playing pieces, since they might lose them at any time.Sadly, I have had to conclude that Star Wars d20 just isn't a good system. Critical hits, especially with lightsabers, are just far too lethal, so you can't really model any of the duels found in the movies. The starship combat rules are poorly designed, and don't model the space combat seen in the movies. (Primarily since the X-Wing Luke is piloting has the same 'hit points' as the X-Wing that Red 4 is piloting. I'm sorry, but unnamed NPCs should be expendable where the PCs are not.) Since those are really the two things I most wanted out of a Star Wars game, and since house ruling the system to fit what I want from it requires a 30-page document, and still isn't really 'right', I don't see any great value in the game for me.</blockquote>

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