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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kenobi65" data-source="post: 2579977" data-attributes="member: 1515">Heh, I think that about covers it.Personal opinion: Lightsaber Form IV Mastery is ba-roken.  Most Jedi builds I've seen are high-Dex / average Str anyway, so this form becomes a no-brainer.Ultimately, what I think is broken isn't the VP/WP system, but the combo platter of:A) The ability of Force-users, and Jedi in particular, to pump their attack modifiers through the ceilingB) The abilty to create a wide critical threat range with a lightsaber (Improved Critical and weapon customization)C) Jedi-type characters getting multiple bonus damage dice on their lightsabers.All of this in combination gives you:- High likelihood to score a critical threat- High likelihood to confirm that threat- High likelihood of doing enough damage on a critical hit to drop the target below -10At least a Force-user has the opportunity to have taken the Dissipate Energy feat (and, if you're playing in a campaign like Remathilis describes, that's another no-brainer feat).  It's the non-Jedi who gets a high-level Dark Jedi or Sith whomping on his butt with a lightsaber that's going to be next-to-defenseless.What this all starts to remind me of is Magic: the Gathering.  WotC puts out a bunch of cards that don't seem terribly potent on their own...but players quickly figure out that a particular combo is death on two wheels.</blockquote>