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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8283662" data-attributes="member: 18">You asserting something is in &quot;completely untrue&quot; without explaining why is pretty crap argumentation, mate.And your &quot;how is altering the adventure by making the clock specific 'altering the adventure'?!?!!&quot; is pretty funny but shows you should probably consider your own logic a lot harder. You're literally altering the adventure. Not everyone wants to add a clock to everything.Basically you arguing for a One True Way-ist approach of a fairly extreme kind, making some serious absolute statements. Your argument also seems to be using &quot;unrealistic&quot; completely incorrectly, and meaning &quot;un-trope-y&quot;. I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, but you're definitely significantly wrong, and your approach here shows zero flexibility or allowance for the possibility that you might actually have a narrow and pedantic view of how D&amp;D 5E works well, one that leans extremely hard on math and fails to account for how differently different groups actually play. Clocks have their place, and if you're having actual balance problems they can help, but they're not a cure-all, and I think for a lot of groups, they're kind of antithetical to D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8283662, member: 18"] You asserting something is in "completely untrue" without explaining why is pretty crap argumentation, mate. And your "how is altering the adventure by making the clock specific 'altering the adventure'?!?!!" is pretty funny but shows you should probably consider your own logic a lot harder. You're literally altering the adventure. Not everyone wants to add a clock to everything. Basically you arguing for a One True Way-ist approach of a fairly extreme kind, making some serious absolute statements. Your argument also seems to be using "unrealistic" completely incorrectly, and meaning "un-trope-y". I'm not saying you're entirely wrong, but you're definitely significantly wrong, and your approach here shows zero flexibility or allowance for the possibility that you might actually have a narrow and pedantic view of how D&D 5E works well, one that leans extremely hard on math and fails to account for how differently different groups actually play. Clocks have their place, and if you're having actual balance problems they can help, but they're not a cure-all, and I think for a lot of groups, they're kind of antithetical to D&D. [/QUOTE]

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