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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8123322" data-attributes="member: 6801228">5th level right? So, if I take the feat instead of the +1, I get 4d8+9 which is 27. If I am a human or wait til level 8, then I can do 4d8+12 which is 30 and back to being higher than the beast. So, dual-wielding with the spider attacking is the only combo that has a competitive chance, and it is a rather small window, and still relying in part on poison damage. Also, we haven't brought it up yet, but in the PHB and DMG, there is no way to give your beast magical damage, meaning that after 5th level the chances of dealing half damage increase significantly.Sure, "Beast as meat bag" isn't bad for the party, but considering it is an 8 hour ritual with a non-hostile beast to replace the one you lost, that is a steep cost. Especially since without the beast, you have no subclass. So, imagine if you will a subclass that was entirely "Prevent a single round of damage from one enemy once per day" and... well, that wouldn't be a very good subclass, would it?The problem with that is that if you are extending the fight, you are taking more potential damage. And dealing less damage guarantees that you are extending the fight.Sorry, I included the Class Variants UA spells into my list. So I forgot that was not base.Clear that I had a ranger who insisted on using the PHB version instead of revised.... for about three sessions then asked if they could still change it.My mistake, you were talking about rituals and I was tired, so I read it as Ritual Caster.</blockquote>

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