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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8123492" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Because I assumed that you took that ASI instead of the feat, hence why your damage was +4 per hit. Then, just for the sake of completeness, I pointed out that once the Hunter had time to get that +4, they caught back up.Seems like that is only a 4 point difference, not sure that one "pales" in comparison to the other. (Checked the math to make sure, and the snake is 19 pts of that damage)Until it runs into immunity. Which is common. However, wow. I had not seen anyone mentioning these errata changes. Not only magical attacks, but automatically taking the Dodge action if they aren't commanded? That is a big change for the better.But, you are missing the point. Your beast is likely to die in a single combat. Then, you need to find a beast, make sure it is non-hostile, and then perform an 8 hour ritual to bond to it. Until you do, what subclass abilities do you have? <s>Ranger's Companion, Exceptional Training, Bestial Fury, Shared Spells.</s> Nothing. Everything the subclass offers revolves around this beast, and they do not have defenses. Your Giant Poisonous Snake? by 5th level they have 17 AC (decent, but not stellar) and has 20 hp.... less than a Con 10 wizard. Let's say you are fighting an Orc Warchief, a CR 4 monster, with a +6 to hit he has about a 50/50 shot of hitting the snake, and with an average of 15 damage per hit it is essentially guaranteed to kill the snake in two rounds. 1 if it hits with both attacks or gets a good damage roll. Even if you can prove the damage is competitive, this is still a major problem.I agree everything isn't about damage, but the problem is that the beast only offers three things. 1) Damage2) Meatsack3) ScoutingAnd, you only get one of these. They are terrible scouts, because you need to cast a spell to communicate or see through their eyes, and any beast small and innocuous enough to pull off scouting it terrible in the other two sections. And they have terrible defenses. The best you can hope for is to dodge and have a crab, because otherwise they can only survive one or two hits. And if they can't survive, then their damage output drops to zero.  So, can't just play the Beastmaster, have to be an optimal beastmaster playing in the right way, and then I can evaluate it? No.</blockquote>

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