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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5543507" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>All of these are pretty much what you get with unarmed strike as it already is. Granted they don't have the same effects, so I guess if you want some special stuff write up some feats and houserule them.</p><p></p><p>This does too much damage for a medium creature. I think I remember seeing <em>somewhere </em>if its a natural attack that they are capable of performing that they do not normally that you go with a lesser damage dice (so 1d2) and a -5 attack. That is in addition to the 1/2 STR, iirc. But I might also institute the defender is confused for 1 round because you are biting him and he doesn't understand why.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT:</p><p> @<u><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6672910" target="_blank">Dingo333</a></u> </p><p>I'm sorry, my example of slam from TV was to try and give you a visual to along with the attack. Yes I realize I said that on TV they went flying and that is a separate check. The general idea I was trying to instill (beyond the semantics you got caught up in) was that a Slam attack is a greater hit than flinging your body at someone. I may be mistaken. <em>Maybe </em>every creature <em>should </em>have a slam attack. I can't speak to that. I know that not all creatures <em>do </em>have one so I trust the fact it has never come up before and don't equate slam with tackling (or body slamming) someone.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't be opposed to giving you (that human fighter) a slam attack with a 1d4 (which is an increase in damage dice from the normal 1d3). I have been in a fight. I know that very little damage is done from the Tackle itself (perhaps winded?) but more so from being knocked to the ground and being pummeled with the other guy's fists.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5543507, member: 95493"] All of these are pretty much what you get with unarmed strike as it already is. Granted they don't have the same effects, so I guess if you want some special stuff write up some feats and houserule them. This does too much damage for a medium creature. I think I remember seeing [I]somewhere [/I]if its a natural attack that they are capable of performing that they do not normally that you go with a lesser damage dice (so 1d2) and a -5 attack. That is in addition to the 1/2 STR, iirc. But I might also institute the defender is confused for 1 round because you are biting him and he doesn't understand why. EDIT: @[U][URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=6672910"]Dingo333[/URL][/U] I'm sorry, my example of slam from TV was to try and give you a visual to along with the attack. Yes I realize I said that on TV they went flying and that is a separate check. The general idea I was trying to instill (beyond the semantics you got caught up in) was that a Slam attack is a greater hit than flinging your body at someone. I may be mistaken. [I]Maybe [/I]every creature [I]should [/I]have a slam attack. I can't speak to that. I know that not all creatures [I]do [/I]have one so I trust the fact it has never come up before and don't equate slam with tackling (or body slamming) someone. I wouldn't be opposed to giving you (that human fighter) a slam attack with a 1d4 (which is an increase in damage dice from the normal 1d3). I have been in a fight. I know that very little damage is done from the Tackle itself (perhaps winded?) but more so from being knocked to the ground and being pummeled with the other guy's fists. [/QUOTE]
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