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Message: <blockquote data-quote="schneeland" data-source="post: 8703152" data-attributes="member: 6900337">If we are talking about RAW, then yes, that game never existed. If we look at my gaming history, it did exist - however, only in the ephemeral state created by a bunch of 20 somethings learning, misremembering and forgetting things, carrying over the gaming culture from both AD&D 2 and The Dark Eye, but also not knowing too other systems, and the general state of the world of nerdy middle class people in Germany in the early 2000s. It was a time where we still unironically listened to Blind Guardian and Manowar, drank mead and spent time on rennaissance fairs. And for some reason, D&D 3 really resonated perfectly with that.Now the problem is that I became less tolerant to mechanical cruft in games over the years - what was merely a small nuisance back then, now bothers me greatly. So something that evokes the same feeling I had with 3e, would need to look different today. I have found other games that I enjoy greatly (e.g. DCC, Forbidden Lands), but as mentioned above: my initial hope that 5e would do the same for me specifically for D&D, which is the game I have probably played most in my life, was not fulfilled by how the edition developed (I did enjoy reading the core 3 books and also Volo - it's just that, contrary to 3e, this time the excitement didn't last).</blockquote>