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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 5473710" data-attributes="member: 75065">One thing to keep in mind with having PCs walk into a fight between two factions:This happened to a group I was playing with and we very nearly sat on the sidelines until they had finished their battle. Both sides were undead and at that stage we had no indication that one side was 'good'. The only motivation we had to join the fight was our paladin who decided to barrell into the middle of things. Many of our PCs are not the 'jump into battle for the hell of it' kind.As we took sides it was 2 vs 1 and wasn't a challenging fight at all.You mentioned they would be teleporting in, which I guess puts them in the middle of  things, but you may find that avoiding the combat is a valid tactic for your players, unless their is a valid motivation for them to join in. I guess that is the 'thing' that piratecat is talking about, something that makes success important to the group, something that raises the stakes and ensures they have a vested interest in engaging with the situation.Okay, so if I understand right, both sides want Pelor's heart? Undead is one faction. Not many are going to side with undead. But what's the other faction? I imagine a similarly disagreeable group, right? Otherwise the PCs could just side with them.I guess being fairly explicit about the danger/consquences of delaying or remaining on the sidelines to avoid such thinking. And maybe have some 'Lose/Failure/Major Set Back' conditions set where one side or other can viably achieve success if the PCs don't intervene.The Portals from the Far Realm suggested in pg1 seem like  a really cool idea. So if the Aberrant creatures manage to finally break the seals and get to the heart and get it to a working portal they win. The Undead don't seem to have such an obvious goal. What interest do these undead have in the Primordial creature? What kind of force is controlling/organising them? Where did these undead arrive from? Maybe answering some of these questions would give the factions clear goals, win conditions and motivations for their actions during the battle.</blockquote>

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