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<blockquote data-quote="lutecius" data-source="post: 4337437" data-attributes="member: 60332">How is Vancian spellcasting gone? I keep reading this and I know it was announced at gencon. But to me it's still here (and worse has contaminated every class)Yes, there are some at-will powers and yes, some are per-encounter, instead of daily. But it's still the same basic system of &quot;prepared slots&quot;. In a way, it's even more restrictive than Vancian because you can only prepare each power once. At any rate, the 3e sorcerer had much more flexibility and was a lot less Vancian.&nbsp;I like some streamlining and uniformity as far as classes structure and presentation are concerned, but they should have picked a power system that fits both spellcasters and martial characters. To me the aw/pe/d system fits neither. And yes, I mostly hate it for &quot;realism&quot; reasons.&nbsp;I completely agree that fighter powers play a lot like spells. And vice versa. This is where heterogenity should lie.I think that making spells and exploits so much alike and useable only once per combat no matter what and without justification was a really lazy way to balance things.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="lutecius, post: 4337437, member: 60332"] [COLOR=white][/COLOR][COLOR=white]How is Vancian spellcasting gone? I keep reading this and I know it was announced at gencon. But to me it's still here (and worse has contaminated every class)[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]Yes, there are some at-will powers and yes, some are per-encounter, instead of daily. But it's still the same basic system of "prepared slots". In a way, it's even more restrictive than Vancian because you can only prepare each power once. At any rate, the 3e sorcerer had much more flexibility and was a lot less Vancian.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]I like some streamlining and uniformity as far as classes structure and presentation are concerned, but they should have picked a power system that fits both spellcasters and martial characters. To me the aw/pe/d system fits neither. And yes, I mostly hate it for "realism" reasons.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]I completely agree that fighter powers play a lot like spells. And vice versa. This is where heterogenity should lie.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#ffffff]I think that making spells and exploits so much alike and useable only once per combat no matter what and without justification was a really lazy way to balance things.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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