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<blockquote data-quote="Sebastian Francis" data-source="post: 1844377" data-attributes="member: 25370"><p>Heh. I knew, when I started this thread, that a lot of people would follow-up saying, "Dude, I'm *glad* there's more crunch in 3e! Who needs flavor text? Add your own!"</p><p></p><p>The problem that I've experienced these past three years is that although we can *say* we're going to add our own imaginative flavor, it seldom happens. 3e seems to play more like a strategy/war game. </p><p></p><p>The following exchange is typical:</p><p></p><p>PLAYER: I want to scribe a scroll. I've got X gp and I can afford to lose Y experience points.</p><p></p><p>DM [trying to add flavor]: Uh, okay. You need to track down an elusive old hermit who lives somewhere at the base of the Barrier Peaks. He's the only known alchemist in the area, and has reportedly created a magic ink from the blood of a dead beholder.</p><p></p><p>PLAYER: Why do I have to do that? That ain't in the RULEZ!</p><p></p><p>DM [sighs deeply]: Fine. You create your scroll.</p><p></p><p>PLAYER: Kewl! More POWERZ!</p><p></p><p>====</p><p></p><p>I'm exaggerating, but seriously, if you tone it down a notch, the above description fits my experiences with 3e thus far. This is over a span of three years, playing in different groups. </p><p></p><p>[Shrug] Maybe colorful flavor and vivid imagination are going out of style, being replaced by painfully precise mathematical rulesets and strategy-and-tactics. I don't know. I hope I'm wrong. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sebastian Francis, post: 1844377, member: 25370"] Heh. I knew, when I started this thread, that a lot of people would follow-up saying, "Dude, I'm *glad* there's more crunch in 3e! Who needs flavor text? Add your own!" The problem that I've experienced these past three years is that although we can *say* we're going to add our own imaginative flavor, it seldom happens. 3e seems to play more like a strategy/war game. The following exchange is typical: PLAYER: I want to scribe a scroll. I've got X gp and I can afford to lose Y experience points. DM [trying to add flavor]: Uh, okay. You need to track down an elusive old hermit who lives somewhere at the base of the Barrier Peaks. He's the only known alchemist in the area, and has reportedly created a magic ink from the blood of a dead beholder. PLAYER: Why do I have to do that? That ain't in the RULEZ! DM [sighs deeply]: Fine. You create your scroll. PLAYER: Kewl! More POWERZ! ==== I'm exaggerating, but seriously, if you tone it down a notch, the above description fits my experiences with 3e thus far. This is over a span of three years, playing in different groups. [Shrug] Maybe colorful flavor and vivid imagination are going out of style, being replaced by painfully precise mathematical rulesets and strategy-and-tactics. I don't know. I hope I'm wrong. :( [/QUOTE]
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