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<blockquote data-quote="Turjan" data-source="post: 1868711" data-attributes="member: 3477">Sure it does. However, this has nothing to do with your previous statement that &quot;magic is chaotic&quot;, which my answer referred to. That's a completely different thing, and I don't see any ground for such a statement.I don't understand that either. Where do you take this connection from? My comment referred to your statement that magic is chaotic. In standard D&amp;D, magic is a very predictable thing. If you do this, then the following will happen. Always. Without exception.How does &quot;one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god&quot; have any connection to faith? An agnostic is someone who does not believe in gods or a God or a divine principle, but does not principally exclude their existence. The only difference to an atheist is that an atheist actively denies the existence of gods. In both cases, there is no room for faith. Most people who call themselves atheists are in reality agnostics.The point is that this excludes agnosticism. If faith and only faith grants certain spells, this is a strong point for the existence of gods or a divine principle. That's fine, but is just an evasion from the problem we are discussing here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Turjan, post: 1868711, member: 3477"] Sure it does. However, this has nothing to do with your previous statement that "magic is chaotic", which my answer referred to. That's a completely different thing, and I don't see any ground for such a statement. I don't understand that either. Where do you take this connection from? My comment referred to your statement that magic is chaotic. In standard D&D, magic is a very predictable thing. If you do this, then the following will happen. Always. Without exception. How does "one who is not committed to believing in either the existence or the nonexistence of God or a god" have any connection to faith? An agnostic is someone who does not believe in gods or a God or a divine principle, but does not principally exclude their existence. The only difference to an atheist is that an atheist actively denies the existence of gods. In both cases, there is no room for faith. Most people who call themselves atheists are in reality agnostics. The point is that this excludes agnosticism. If faith and only faith grants certain spells, this is a strong point for the existence of gods or a divine principle. That's fine, but is just an evasion from the problem we are discussing here. [/QUOTE]

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