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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4871814" data-attributes="member: 66434">Balance can be achieved by the gaming group assuming it is even desired. Balance dictated by a rulebook on a per round basis can be useful for some groups, but for many such forced balance clogs up the flow of the game and makes the classes play too similar to one another.  As far as meaningful choices about class, I don't recall magic users that would often out-thief the thief. Magical items that could simulate such activity certainly existed, but the old magic user wasn't buying wands of knock by the armload like the 3E wizard could. Spell slots were precious and loading up on enough thief skill magic for an adventure left the magic user sorely lacking in other areas. In a world without the Wands and Scrolls R Us stores the magic user did a lot less toe stepping.  Who says fancy descriptions won't kill the dragon? The PC's have a  problem with a nasty red dragon. They could charge in and just fight it or they could come up with a plan. Sneak in and steal the mother's egg while she is out hunting. Infiltrate the lair of a group of fire giants and hide the egg. Let the giants kill the dragon when she comes for her egg. Profit. Clever ideas can often save the day.</blockquote>