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<blockquote data-quote="Rackhir" data-source="post: 3065555" data-attributes="member: 149"><p>My complaints have nothing to do with there being foriegners or even foriegners as bad guys per se. The bad guys in Jackie Chan's Project A movies were foriegners, but the movies were also set in "foriegn countries" so I didn't have a problem with that. In Japan there were a series of Mafia vs Yakuza movies and I don't really have a problem with that since it's not like mobsters are red cross volunteers. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again it's not so much the fact that the villians are foriegners that bothers me, it's the emphasis that is placed <em>in the trailer</em> on the foriegners being there to "humiliate" and "Bring China to it's knees." and this is in the American trailer! I can only imagine what the chinese trailer was like.</p><p></p><p>If it was also only this film that had this sort of theme that wouldn't bother me. But there are a substantial number of movies with similar themes that I've seen and I don't exactly go out of the way to catch martial arts flicks about evil foriegners. Plus, I keep reading reports about how the Chinese Communist party is increasingly turning to rabid nationalism to help butress their rule and deflect criticisim of their missdeeds. </p><p></p><p>You're examples are of course true, but the thing that is different at least as I see it is that Hans Gruber isn't bad and evil <em>because</em> he's a foriegner, it's because he's the bad guy, who happens to be a foriegner. Probably because Alan Rickman sounds so cool doing that accent. Hans is a foriegner in large part probably due to a reverse snobbery. We tend to look at Europeans as being more cultured and sophisticated than americans, especially working class cops like John McClane.</p><p></p><p>However, if the US started making dozens of different movies about various attrocities that the British had committed in the American Revolution and the war of 1812, in which characters complained constantly about how the evil british robbed us of our "birthright" of Canada. I'd start being concerned about that too. I've also known americans who've complained about Mel Gibson's movie "The Patriot" precisely because the british characters were portrayed as evil for no good reason and in contradiction of the historical record. I think that is a valid complaint about the film.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I would be very pleased if it's not the sort of film they seem to be billing it as. Also I'm quite frankly not a fan of mindlessly jingoistic american films like the aformentioned Rocky IV either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rackhir, post: 3065555, member: 149"] My complaints have nothing to do with there being foriegners or even foriegners as bad guys per se. The bad guys in Jackie Chan's Project A movies were foriegners, but the movies were also set in "foriegn countries" so I didn't have a problem with that. In Japan there were a series of Mafia vs Yakuza movies and I don't really have a problem with that since it's not like mobsters are red cross volunteers. Again it's not so much the fact that the villians are foriegners that bothers me, it's the emphasis that is placed [i]in the trailer[/i] on the foriegners being there to "humiliate" and "Bring China to it's knees." and this is in the American trailer! I can only imagine what the chinese trailer was like. If it was also only this film that had this sort of theme that wouldn't bother me. But there are a substantial number of movies with similar themes that I've seen and I don't exactly go out of the way to catch martial arts flicks about evil foriegners. Plus, I keep reading reports about how the Chinese Communist party is increasingly turning to rabid nationalism to help butress their rule and deflect criticisim of their missdeeds. You're examples are of course true, but the thing that is different at least as I see it is that Hans Gruber isn't bad and evil [i]because[/i] he's a foriegner, it's because he's the bad guy, who happens to be a foriegner. Probably because Alan Rickman sounds so cool doing that accent. Hans is a foriegner in large part probably due to a reverse snobbery. We tend to look at Europeans as being more cultured and sophisticated than americans, especially working class cops like John McClane. However, if the US started making dozens of different movies about various attrocities that the British had committed in the American Revolution and the war of 1812, in which characters complained constantly about how the evil british robbed us of our "birthright" of Canada. I'd start being concerned about that too. I've also known americans who've complained about Mel Gibson's movie "The Patriot" precisely because the british characters were portrayed as evil for no good reason and in contradiction of the historical record. I think that is a valid complaint about the film. I would be very pleased if it's not the sort of film they seem to be billing it as. Also I'm quite frankly not a fan of mindlessly jingoistic american films like the aformentioned Rocky IV either. [/QUOTE]
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